Why are there no wars between states in the U.S.A.? It's because of courts. We go to court instead of fight. Modern Nations also use courts, U.N. resolutions and human rights to resolve disputes rather than wage war. Unfortunately, Israel has ignored many U.N. resolutions.
See these on the website of Jews Against the Occupation: http://www.jatonyc.org/
Please see my teach-in on the Middle East Crisis at: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~anniebirdsong/data/my_website.html
Iraqi Shiites Struggle for the Soul of their Country
There are two Muslim parties vying for control in Iraq: the Shiites, also called Shi'a, who are the in the vast majority, and the Sunni, whose dictatorship brutally ruled the country for many years.
The Sunni arrested, imprisoned and sometimes killed members of the Shiite's Al Da'wa Party, sometimes closing religious institutions and shutting down journals. The Sunni also aligned themselves with the United States in a war to destroy Iran's Islamic Republic when Iran's leader began encouraging the Shiites in Iraq to rise up and establish an Islamic Republic.
While the Sunni are Muslims, their Ba'ath party is secular -- opposed to rule by the tennets of Islam. But the Shiites believe if the Constitution and other laws are not based on Islam, their economy, culture and political life will be easy prey for the Western imperialists.
The Ba'ath Party is left wing and once professed unity with the European left, the Soviet Union and the satellite states. These Sunni are also Arab Nationalists who believe Arabs from the Gulf should be tied into one political entity since they are united by their interests, blood, history, language and interests.
The Shiites, too, believe in forging political ties with other Arabs, but they feel Islam must be the defining element of nationalism.
The Shiites see Arab Nationalism as a Trojan Horse that will bring in Westernization. You may remember the story from ancient times where soldiers hid inside the big wooden Trojan Horse so they could get inside the gates.
Arab Nationalists ponder forming a just economic order by forming trade ties with the Third World and the South.
Both Arab Nationalists and Islamists believe the restoration of the Palestinian homeland should be a central concern of the Arabs. But they see the dispossession of the Palestinians and seizure of land holy to the Muslims a bit differently. Arab Nationalists believe it was a plot by imperialists to drain away their resources and distract Arabs from their efforts to unify. But the Shi'a believe the state of Israel was formed to wage war against the Islamic Republic. They also believe the Jewish State was formed to bring Westernization and secular nationalism to the region.
The Shi'a have their own ideas about economics that are neither capitalist or socialist. For instance, "The Shiites believe the sole owner of land and raw materials is the Islamic state," wrote T.M Aziz in an article called "An Islamic Perspective of Political Economy: The Views of (late) Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr". "People may gain special rights of ownership if they invest labor to develop these natural resources, such as cultivating land or mining minerals. The rights of ownership can only be gained through labor invested in developing that land or raw material, and such right ends as soon as that development ends." (This is similar to the Ejido system granting "land to the tiller" establised during the Mexican Revolution that was eliminated by the North Atlantic Free Trade Agreement, NAFTA, between the U.S.A., Mexico and Canada.)
Aziz also wrote, "An individual may not use other individuals to develop a natural resource in order to have the right of ownership of a large estate, for example; otherwise they will share the ownership and the benefits of that natural wealth on the basis of their labour. Islam totally rejects the capitalitic principle of individual ownership of vast natural resources on the ground that they are developed by the labour of others."
Read more about the economics of the Islamic Republic at: http://al-islam.org/al-tawhid/politicaleconomy/
It is important to realize that the U.S. government fears the formation of an Islamic Republic stretching in a crescent from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. So keep watch in the news to see what happens in Lebanon and Iraq.
Annie Birdsong
2006-08-10 22:21:20 EST
On the Jews Against the Occupation website (http://www.jatonyc.org/) Click on "Information/Resources," the click on "United Nations on Palestine," then click on "Key U.N. Resolutions on Palestine.
Annie Birdsong wrote: > Israel's Violations Against U.N. Resolutions > > Why are there no wars between states in the U.S.A.? > It's because of courts. We go to court instead of fight. > Modern Nations also use courts, U.N. resolutions and > human rights to resolve disputes rather than wage war. > Unfortunately, Israel has ignored many U.N. resolutions. > > See these on the website of Jews Against the Occupation: > http://www.jatonyc.org/ > > Please see my teach-in on the Middle East Crisis at: > http://www.home.earthlink.net/~anniebirdsong/data/my_website.html > > > Iraqi Shiites Struggle for the Soul of their Country > > There are two Muslim parties vying for control > in Iraq: the Shiites, also called Shi'a, who are > the in the vast majority, and the Sunni, whose > dictatorship brutally ruled the country for many years. > > The Sunni arrested, imprisoned and sometimes > killed members of the Shiite's Al Da'wa Party, > sometimes closing religious institutions and > shutting down journals. The Sunni also aligned > themselves with the United States in a war to > destroy Iran's Islamic Republic when Iran's leader > began encouraging the Shiites in Iraq to rise up > and establish an Islamic Republic. > > While the Sunni are Muslims, their Ba'ath party > is secular -- opposed to rule by the tennets of Islam. > But the Shiites believe if the Constitution and other > laws are not based on Islam, their economy, culture > and political life will be easy prey for the Western > imperialists. > > The Ba'ath Party is left wing and once professed > unity with the European left, the Soviet Union and > the satellite states. These Sunni are also Arab > Nationalists who believe Arabs from the Gulf > should be tied into one political entity since they > are united by their interests, blood, history, language > and interests. > > The Shiites, too, believe in forging political ties with > other Arabs, but they feel Islam must be the defining > element of nationalism. > > The Shiites see Arab Nationalism as a Trojan Horse > that will bring in Westernization. You may remember > the story from ancient times where soldiers hid inside > the big wooden Trojan Horse so they could get inside > the gates. > > Arab Nationalists ponder forming a just economic order > by forming trade ties with the Third World and the South. > > Both Arab Nationalists and Islamists believe the restoration > of the Palestinian homeland should be a central concern > of the Arabs. But they see the dispossession of the > Palestinians and seizure of land holy to the Muslims a > bit differently. Arab Nationalists believe it was a plot by > imperialists to drain away their resources and distract > Arabs from their efforts to unify. But the Shi'a believe the > state of Israel was formed to wage war against the Islamic > Republic. They also believe the Jewish State was formed > to bring Westernization and secular nationalism to the > region. > > The Shi'a have their own ideas about economics that > are neither capitalist or socialist. For instance, "The > Shiites believe the sole owner of land and raw materials > is the Islamic state," wrote T.M Aziz in an article called > "An Islamic Perspective of Political Economy: The > Views of (late) Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr". "People > may gain special rights of ownership if they invest labor > to develop these natural resources, such as cultivating > land or mining minerals. The rights of ownership can > only be gained through labor invested in developing that > land or raw material, and such right ends as soon as > that development ends." (This is similar to the Ejido > system granting "land to the tiller" establised during the > Mexican Revolution that was eliminated by the North > Atlantic Free Trade Agreement, NAFTA, between the > U.S.A., Mexico and Canada.) > > Aziz also wrote, "An individual may not use other > individuals to develop a natural resource in order to > have the right of ownership of a large estate, for example; > otherwise they will share the ownership and the benefits > of that natural wealth on the basis of their labour. Islam > totally rejects the capitalitic principle of individual ownership > of vast natural resources on the ground that they are > developed by the labour of others." > > Read more about the economics of the Islamic Republic > at: http://al-islam.org/al-tawhid/politicaleconomy/ > > It is important to realize that the U.S. government fears > the formation of an Islamic Republic stretching in a > crescent from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. So keep > watch in the news to see what happens in Lebanon and > Iraq.
Daniel Aaron Weir
2006-08-10 22:38:48 EST
Annie Birdsong wrote: > On the Jews Against the Occupation > website (http://www.jatonyc.org/) > Click on "Information/Resources," the > click on "United Nations on Palestine," then > click on "Key U.N. Resolutions on Palestine. > > > > > > > > Annie Birdsong wrote: >> Israel's Violations Against U.N. Resolutions >> >> Why are there no wars between states in the U.S.A.? >> It's because of courts. We go to court instead of fight. >> Modern Nations also use courts, U.N. resolutions and >> human rights to resolve disputes rather than wage war. >> Unfortunately, Israel has ignored many U.N. resolutions. >> >> See these on the website of Jews Against the Occupation: >> http://www.jatonyc.org/ >> >> Please see my teach-in on the Middle East Crisis at: >> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~anniebirdsong/data/my_website.html >> >> >> Iraqi Shiites Struggle for the Soul of their Country >> >> There are two Muslim parties vying for control >> in Iraq: the Shiites, also called Shi'a, who are >> the in the vast majority, and the Sunni, whose >> dictatorship brutally ruled the country for many years. >> >> The Sunni arrested, imprisoned and sometimes >> killed members of the Shiite's Al Da'wa Party, >> sometimes closing religious institutions and >> shutting down journals. The Sunni also aligned >> themselves with the United States in a war to >> destroy Iran's Islamic Republic when Iran's leader >> began encouraging the Shiites in Iraq to rise up >> and establish an Islamic Republic. >> >> While the Sunni are Muslims, their Ba'ath party >> is secular -- opposed to rule by the tennets of Islam. >> But the Shiites believe if the Constitution and other >> laws are not based on Islam, their economy, culture >> and political life will be easy prey for the Western >> imperialists. >> >> The Ba'ath Party is left wing and once professed >> unity with the European left, the Soviet Union and >> the satellite states. These Sunni are also Arab >> Nationalists who believe Arabs from the Gulf >> should be tied into one political entity since they >> are united by their interests, blood, history, language >> and interests. >> >> The Shiites, too, believe in forging political ties with >> other Arabs, but they feel Islam must be the defining >> element of nationalism. >> >> The Shiites see Arab Nationalism as a Trojan Horse >> that will bring in Westernization. You may remember >> the story from ancient times where soldiers hid inside >> the big wooden Trojan Horse so they could get inside >> the gates. >> >> Arab Nationalists ponder forming a just economic order >> by forming trade ties with the Third World and the South. >> >> Both Arab Nationalists and Islamists believe the restoration >> of the Palestinian homeland should be a central concern >> of the Arabs. But they see the dispossession of the >> Palestinians and seizure of land holy to the Muslims a >> bit differently. Arab Nationalists believe it was a plot by >> imperialists to drain away their resources and distract >> Arabs from their efforts to unify. But the Shi'a believe the >> state of Israel was formed to wage war against the Islamic >> Republic. They also believe the Jewish State was formed >> to bring Westernization and secular nationalism to the >> region. >> >> The Shi'a have their own ideas about economics that >> are neither capitalist or socialist. For instance, "The >> Shiites believe the sole owner of land and raw materials >> is the Islamic state," wrote T.M Aziz in an article called >> "An Islamic Perspective of Political Economy: The >> Views of (late) Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr". "People >> may gain special rights of ownership if they invest labor >> to develop these natural resources, such as cultivating >> land or mining minerals. The rights of ownership can >> only be gained through labor invested in developing that >> land or raw material, and such right ends as soon as >> that development ends." (This is similar to the Ejido >> system granting "land to the tiller" establised during the >> Mexican Revolution that was eliminated by the North >> Atlantic Free Trade Agreement, NAFTA, between the >> U.S.A., Mexico and Canada.) >> >> Aziz also wrote, "An individual may not use other >> individuals to develop a natural resource in order to >> have the right of ownership of a large estate, for example; >> otherwise they will share the ownership and the benefits >> of that natural wealth on the basis of their labour. Islam >> totally rejects the capitalitic principle of individual ownership >> of vast natural resources on the ground that they are >> developed by the labour of others." >> >> Read more about the economics of the Islamic Republic >> at: http://al-islam.org/al-tawhid/politicaleconomy/ >> >> It is important to realize that the U.S. government fears >> the formation of an Islamic Republic stretching in a >> crescent from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. So keep >> watch in the news to see what happens in Lebanon and >> Iraq. >
Annie Birdsong
2006-08-11 09:39:00 EST
Please see my teach-in on the Middle East Crisis at: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~anniebirdsong/data/my_website.html
> Annie Birdsong wrote: > > Israel's Violations Against U.N. Resolutions > > > > Why are there no wars between states in the U.S.A.? > > It's because of courts. We go to court instead of fight. > > Modern Nations also use courts, U.N. resolutions and > > human rights to resolve disputes rather than wage war. > > Unfortunately, Israel has ignored many U.N. resolutions. > > > > See these on the website of Jews Against the Occupation: > > http://www.jatonyc.org/ > > > > Please see my teach-in on the Middle East Crisis at: > > http://www.home.earthlink.net/~anniebirdsong/data/my_website.html > > > > > > Iraqi Shiites Struggle for the Soul of their Country > > > > There are two Muslim parties vying for control > > in Iraq: the Shiites, also called Shi'a, who are > > the in the vast majority, and the Sunni, whose > > dictatorship brutally ruled the country for many years. > > > > The Sunni arrested, imprisoned and sometimes > > killed members of the Shiite's Al Da'wa Party, > > sometimes closing religious institutions and > > shutting down journals. The Sunni also aligned > > themselves with the United States in a war to > > destroy Iran's Islamic Republic when Iran's leader > > began encouraging the Shiites in Iraq to rise up > > and establish an Islamic Republic. > > > > While the Sunni are Muslims, their Ba'ath party > > is secular -- opposed to rule by the tennets of Islam. > > But the Shiites believe if the Constitution and other > > laws are not based on Islam, their economy, culture > > and political life will be easy prey for the Western > > imperialists. > > > > The Ba'ath Party is left wing and once professed > > unity with the European left, the Soviet Union and > > the satellite states. These Sunni are also Arab > > Nationalists who believe Arabs from the Gulf > > should be tied into one political entity since they > > are united by their interests, blood, history, language > > and interests. > > > > The Shiites, too, believe in forging political ties with > > other Arabs, but they feel Islam must be the defining > > element of nationalism. > > > > The Shiites see Arab Nationalism as a Trojan Horse > > that will bring in Westernization. You may remember > > the story from ancient times where soldiers hid inside > > the big wooden Trojan Horse so they could get inside > > the gates. > > > > Arab Nationalists ponder forming a just economic order > > by forming trade ties with the Third World and the South. > > > > Both Arab Nationalists and Islamists believe the restoration > > of the Palestinian homeland should be a central concern > > of the Arabs. But they see the dispossession of the > > Palestinians and seizure of land holy to the Muslims a > > bit differently. Arab Nationalists believe it was a plot by > > imperialists to drain away their resources and distract > > Arabs from their efforts to unify. But the Shi'a believe the > > state of Israel was formed to wage war against the Islamic > > Republic. They also believe the Jewish State was formed > > to bring Westernization and secular nationalism to the > > region. > > > > The Shi'a have their own ideas about economics that > > are neither capitalist or socialist. For instance, "The > > Shiites believe the sole owner of land and raw materials > > is the Islamic state," wrote T.M Aziz in an article called > > "An Islamic Perspective of Political Economy: The > > Views of (late) Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr". "People > > may gain special rights of ownership if they invest labor > > to develop these natural resources, such as cultivating > > land or mining minerals. The rights of ownership can > > only be gained through labor invested in developing that > > land or raw material, and such right ends as soon as > > that development ends." (This is similar to the Ejido > > system granting "land to the tiller" establised during the > > Mexican Revolution that was eliminated by the North > > Atlantic Free Trade Agreement, NAFTA, between the > > U.S.A., Mexico and Canada.) > > > > Aziz also wrote, "An individual may not use other > > individuals to develop a natural resource in order to > > have the right of ownership of a large estate, for example; > > otherwise they will share the ownership and the benefits > > of that natural wealth on the basis of their labour. Islam > > totally rejects the capitalitic principle of individual ownership > > of vast natural resources on the ground that they are > > developed by the labour of others." > > > > Read more about the economics of the Islamic Republic > > at: http://al-islam.org/al-tawhid/politicaleconomy/ > > > > It is important to realize that the U.S. government fears > > the formation of an Islamic Republic stretching in a > > crescent from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. So keep > > watch in the news to see what happens in Lebanon and > > Iraq.
Zzpat
2006-08-11 11:41:00 EST
Annie Birdsong wrote: > Israel's Violations Against U.N. Resolutions > > Why are there no wars between states in the U.S.A.? > It's because of courts. We go to court instead of fight.
States are forbidden by the US Constitution from having an army or navy and states are forbidden from going to war with other states (though the Civil War was exactly that - a violation of the Constitution).
For whatever reason southern states felt they had the power (or right) to violate the Constitution. Luckily, their lawlessness wasn't rewarded.
-- Pat Impeach Bush http://zzpat.bravehost.com/
Articles of Impeachment Center for Constitutional Rights http://zzpat.bravehost.com/april_2006/articles_of_impeachment.html
Scotius
2006-08-18 20:14:04 EST
On 10 Aug 2006 18:43:59 -0700, "Annie Birdsong" <*g@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Israel's Violations Against U.N. Resolutions >
The UN, as you may know, is the body that considers the current war in Iraq illegitimate because enough countries that have business interests that it's contrary to voted against it. It's also the entity whose representatives will tell you with a straight face that the first US/Iraq Gulf War was okay because enough people got together there and said it was. Guess what. They have NO moral authority, and the idea that you could measure there non existent credibility is itself a joke.
>Why are there no wars between states in the U.S.A.? >It's because of courts. We go to court instead of fight. >Modern Nations also use courts, U.N. resolutions and >human rights to resolve disputes rather than wage war. >Unfortunately, Israel has ignored many U.N. resolutions. > >See these on the website of Jews Against the Occupation: >http://www.jatonyc.org/ > >Please see my teach-in on the Middle East Crisis at: >http://www.home.earthlink.net/~anniebirdsong/data/my_website.html > > >Iraqi Shiites Struggle for the Soul of their Country > >There are two Muslim parties vying for control >in Iraq: the Shiites, also called Shi'a, who are >the in the vast majority, and the Sunni, whose >dictatorship brutally ruled the country for many years. > >The Sunni arrested, imprisoned and sometimes >killed members of the Shiite's Al Da'wa Party, >sometimes closing religious institutions and >shutting down journals. The Sunni also aligned >themselves with the United States in a war to >destroy Iran's Islamic Republic when Iran's leader >began encouraging the Shiites in Iraq to rise up >and establish an Islamic Republic. > >While the Sunni are Muslims, their Ba'ath party >is secular -- opposed to rule by the tennets of Islam. >But the Shiites believe if the Constitution and other >laws are not based on Islam, their economy, culture >and political life will be easy prey for the Western >imperialists. > >The Ba'ath Party is left wing and once professed >unity with the European left, the Soviet Union and >the satellite states. These Sunni are also Arab >Nationalists who believe Arabs from the Gulf >should be tied into one political entity since they >are united by their interests, blood, history, language >and interests. > >The Shiites, too, believe in forging political ties with >other Arabs, but they feel Islam must be the defining >element of nationalism. > >The Shiites see Arab Nationalism as a Trojan Horse >that will bring in Westernization. You may remember >the story from ancient times where soldiers hid inside >the big wooden Trojan Horse so they could get inside >the gates. > >Arab Nationalists ponder forming a just economic order >by forming trade ties with the Third World and the South. > >Both Arab Nationalists and Islamists believe the restoration >of the Palestinian homeland should be a central concern >of the Arabs. But they see the dispossession of the >Palestinians and seizure of land holy to the Muslims a >bit differently. Arab Nationalists believe it was a plot by >imperialists to drain away their resources and distract >Arabs from their efforts to unify. But the Shi'a believe the >state of Israel was formed to wage war against the Islamic >Republic. They also believe the Jewish State was formed >to bring Westernization and secular nationalism to the >region. > >The Shi'a have their own ideas about economics that >are neither capitalist or socialist. For instance, "The >Shiites believe the sole owner of land and raw materials >is the Islamic state," wrote T.M Aziz in an article called >"An Islamic Perspective of Political Economy: The >Views of (late) Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr". "People >may gain special rights of ownership if they invest labor >to develop these natural resources, such as cultivating >land or mining minerals. The rights of ownership can >only be gained through labor invested in developing that >land or raw material, and such right ends as soon as >that development ends." (This is similar to the Ejido >system granting "land to the tiller" establised during the >Mexican Revolution that was eliminated by the North >Atlantic Free Trade Agreement, NAFTA, between the >U.S.A., Mexico and Canada.) > >Aziz also wrote, "An individual may not use other >individuals to develop a natural resource in order to >have the right of ownership of a large estate, for example; >otherwise they will share the ownership and the benefits >of that natural wealth on the basis of their labour. Islam >totally rejects the capitalitic principle of individual ownership >of vast natural resources on the ground that they are >developed by the labour of others." > >Read more about the economics of the Islamic Republic >at: http://al-islam.org/al-tawhid/politicaleconomy/ > >It is important to realize that the U.S. government fears >the formation of an Islamic Republic stretching in a >crescent from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. So keep >watch in the news to see what happens in Lebanon and >Iraq.
RonB
2006-08-19 05:35:02 EST
On Fri 18 Aug 2006 06:14:04p, Scotius <wolvzbro@mnsi.net>, wrote:
> The UN, as you may know, is the body that considers the > current war in Iraq illegitimate because enough countries that have > business interests that it's contrary to voted against it. It's also > the entity whose representatives will tell you with a straight face > that the first US/Iraq Gulf War was okay because enough people got > together there and said it was. Guess what. They have NO moral > authority, and the idea that you could measure there non existent > credibility is itself a joke.
The war in Iraq is "illegitimate" (illegal, unlawful) because it is an unprovoked war. The United States was not threatened by the Iraqi government when we attacked Iraq -- Bush's bullshit doesn't wash.
-- RonB "There's a story there...somewhere"
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.
2006-08-19 11:07:47 EST
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:14:04 -0700, Scotius <wolvzbro@mnsi.net> wrote:
>>Israel's Violations Against U.N. Resolutions >> > > The UN, as you may know, is the body that considers the >current war in Iraq illegitimate because enough countries that have >business interests that it's contrary to voted against it.
Actually, other countries don't have a moron as President so they knew the story about WMD was hyped.
UN inspectors checked out US claims about WMD and found them baseless.