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Anonymous Via The Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer
2006-10-28 03:15:10 EST
Israel Air Forces warplanes have not stopped
violating Lebanese air space since Israeli
ground troops completed withdrawal from
southern Lebanon in early October.

Irritated by Israeli fighters' ongoing
operations, Major General Alain Pellegrini
of France, commander of UN Interim Forcein
Lebanon (UNIFIL) warned last week that the
UN troops might need to change the rules of
engagement to allow the use of anti-aircraft
missiles against Israeli jets.





Saberman
2006-10-28 04:42:43 EST
Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
> Israel Air Forces warplanes have not stopped
> violating Lebanese air space since Israeli
> ground troops completed withdrawal from
> southern Lebanon in early October.
>
> Irritated by Israeli fighters' ongoing
> operations, Major General Alain Pellegrini
> of France, commander of UN Interim Forcein
> Lebanon (UNIFIL) warned last week that the
> UN troops might need to change the rules of
> engagement to allow the use of anti-aircraft
> missiles against Israeli jets.

You mean the violations that have been going on BEFORE the unprovoked
attack by the terrorist state of israel?



Morton Davis
2006-10-28 08:48:18 EST

"Saberman" <Saberman@xemaps.com> wrote in message
news:2PKdnRt-PeGfhd7YnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
> > Israel Air Forces warplanes have not stopped
> > violating Lebanese air space since Israeli
> > ground troops completed withdrawal from
> > southern Lebanon in early October.
> >
> > Irritated by Israeli fighters' ongoing
> > operations, Major General Alain Pellegrini
> > of France, commander of UN Interim Forcein
> > Lebanon (UNIFIL) warned last week that the
> > UN troops might need to change the rules of
> > engagement to allow the use of anti-aircraft
> > missiles against Israeli jets.
>
> You mean the violations that have been going on BEFORE the unprovoked
> attack by the terrorist state of israel?
>
>
What unprovoked attack?



Whip
2006-10-28 11:03:24 EST
Remember the Liberty and what happened to them.

"Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer" <nobody@cypherpunks.to> wrote
in message news:20061028071510.B27BB171CD@mail.cypherpunks.to...
> Israel Air Forces warplanes have not stopped
> violating Lebanese air space since Israeli
> ground troops completed withdrawal from
> southern Lebanon in early October.
>
> Irritated by Israeli fighters' ongoing
> operations, Major General Alain Pellegrini
> of France, commander of UN Interim Forcein
> Lebanon (UNIFIL) warned last week that the
> UN troops might need to change the rules of
> engagement to allow the use of anti-aircraft
> missiles against Israeli jets.
>
>
>
>



Whip
2006-10-28 11:08:24 EST
The USS Liberty': America's Most Shameful Secret
by Eric S. Margolis

NEW YORK - On the fourth day of the 1967 Arab Israeli War, the intelligence
ship 'USS Liberty' was steaming slowly in international waters, 14 miles off
the Sinai Peninsula. Israeli armored forces were racing deep into Sinai in
hot pursuit of the retreating Egyptian army.
'Liberty,' a World War II freighter, had been converted into an intelligence
vessel by the top-secret US National Security Agency, and packed with the
latest signals and electronic interception equipment. The ship bristled with
antennas and electronic 'ears' including TRSSCOMM, a system that delivered
real-time intercepts to Washington by bouncing a stream of microwaves off
the moon.
'Liberty' had been rushed to Sinai to monitor communications of the
belligerents in the Third Arab Israeli War: Israel and her foes, Egypt,
Syria, and Jordan.
At 0800 hrs, 8 June, 1967, eight Israeli recon flights flew over 'Liberty,'
which was flying a large American flag. At 1400 hrs, waves of low-flying
Israeli Mystere and Mirage-III fighter-bombers repeatedly attacked the
American vessel with rockets, napalm, and cannon. The air attacks lasted 20
minutes, concentrating on the ship's electronic antennas and dishes. The
'Liberty' was left afire, listing sharply. Eight of her crew lay dead, a
hundred seriously wounded, including the captain, Commander William
McGonagle.
At 1424 hrs, three Israeli torpedo boats attacked, raking the burning
'Liberty' with 20mm and 40mm shells. At 1431hrs an Israeli torpedo hit the
'Liberty' midship, precisely where the signals intelligence systems were
located. Twenty-five more Americans died.
Israeli gunboats circled the wounded 'Liberty,' firing at crewmen trying to
fight the fires. At 1515, the crew were ordered to abandon ship. The Israeli
warships closed and poured machine gun fire into the crowded life rafts,
sinking two. As American sailors were being massacred in cold blood, a
rescue mission by US Sixth Fleet carrier aircraft was mysteriously aborted
on orders from the White House.
An hour after the attack, Israeli warships and planes returned. Commander
McGonagle gave the order. 'prepare to repel borders.' But the Israelis,
probably fearful of intervention by the US Sixth Fleet, departed. 'Liberty'
was left shattered but still defiant, her flag flying.
The Israeli attacks killed 34 US seamen and wounded 171 out of a crew of
297, the worst loss of American naval personnel from hostile action since
World War II.
Less than an hour after the attack, Israel told Washington its forces had
committed a 'tragic error.' Later, Israel claimed it had mistaken 'Liberty'
for an ancient Egyptian horse transport. US Secretary of State, Dean Rusk,
and Joint Chiefs of Staff head, Admiral Thomas Moorer, insisted the Israeli
attack was deliberate and designed to sink 'Liberty.' So did three CIA
reports; one asserted Israel's Defense Minister, Gen. Moshe Dayan, had
personally ordered the attack.
In contrast to American outrage over North Korea's assault on the
intelligence ship 'Pueblo,' Iraq's mistaken missile strike on the USS
'Stark,' last fall's bombing of the USS 'Cole' in Aden, and the recent
US-China air incident, the savaging of 'Liberty' was quickly hushed up by
President Lyndon Johnson and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara.
The White House and Congress immediately accepted Israel's explanation and
let the matter drop. Israel later paid a token reparation of US $6 million.
There were reports two Israeli pilots who had refused to attack 'Liberty'
were jailed for 18 years.
Surviving 'Liberty' crew members would not be silenced. They kept demanding
an open inquiry and tried to tell their story of deliberate attack to the
media. Israel's government worked behind the scenes to thwart these efforts,
going so far as having American pro-Israel groups accuse 'Liberty's'
survivors of being 'anti-Semites' and 'Israel-haters.' Major TV networks
cancelled interviews with the crew. A book about the 'Liberty' by crewman
James Ennes' was dropped from distribution. The Israel lobby branded him 'an
Arab propagandist.'
The attack on 'Liberty' was fading into obscurity until last week, when
intelligence expert James Bamford came out with Body of Secrets, his latest
book about the National Security Agency. In a stunning revelation, Bamford
writes that unknown to Israel, a US Navy EC-121 intelligence aircraft was
flying high overhead the 'Liberty,' electronically recorded the attack. The
US aircraft crew provides evidence that the Israeli pilots knew full well
that they were attacking a US Navy ship flying the American flag.
Why did Israel try to sink a naval vessel of its benefactor and ally? Most
likely because 'Liberty's' intercepts flatly contradicted Israel's claim,
made at the war's beginning on 5 June, that Egypt had attacked Israel, and
that Israel's massive air assault on three Arab nations was in retaliation.
In fact, Israel began the war by a devastating, Pearl-Harbor style surprise
attack that caught the Arabs in bed and destroyed their entire air forces.
Israel was also preparing to attack Syria to seize its strategic Golan
Heights. Washington warned Israel not to invade Syria, which had remained
inactive while Israel fought Egypt. Bamford says Israel's offensive against
Syria was abruptly postponed when 'Liberty' appeared off Sinai, then
launched once it was knocked out of action. Israel's claim that Syria had
attacked it could have been disproved by 'Liberty.'
Most significant, 'Liberty's' intercepts may have shown that Israel seized
upon sharply rising Arab-Israeli tensions in May-June 1967 to launch a
long-planned war to invade and annex the West Bank, Jerusalem, Golan and
Sinai.
Far more shocking was Washington's response. Writes Bamford: 'Despite the
overwhelming evidence that Israel attacked the ship and killed American
servicemen deliberately, the Johnson Administration and Congress covered up
the entire incident.' Why?
Domestic politics. Johnson, a man never noted for high moral values,
preferred to cover up the attack rather than anger a key constituency and
major financial backer of the Democratic Party. Congress was even less eager
to touch this 'third rail' issue.
Commander McGonagle was quietly awarded the Medal of Honor for his and his
men's heroism - not in the White House, as is usual, but in an obscure
ceremony at the Washington Navy Yard. Crew member's graves were inscribed,
'died in the Eastern Mediterranean..' as if they had be killed by disease,
rather than hostile action.
A member of President Johnson's staff believed there was a more complex
reason for the cover-up: Johnson offered Jewish liberals unconditional
backing of Israel, and a cover-up of the 'Liberty' attack, in exchange for
the liberal toning down their strident criticism of his policies in the then
raging Vietnam War.
Israel, which claims it fought a war of self defense in 1967 and had no
prior territorial ambitions, will be much displeased by Bamford's
revelations. Those who believe Israel illegally occupies the West Bank and
Golan will be emboldened.
Much more important, the US government's long, disgraceful cover-up of the
premeditated attack on 'Liberty' has now burst into the open and demands
full-scale investigation. After 34 years, the voices of 'Liberty's' dead and
wounded seamen must finally be heard.
May 2, 2001
Copyright Eric S. Margolis 2001
Eric Margolis [send him mail] is foreign correspondent for the Toronto Sun.


"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
news:mkI0h.120710$aJ.94940@attbi_s21...
>
> "Saberman" <Saberman@xemaps.com> wrote in message
> news:2PKdnRt-PeGfhd7YnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
>> > Israel Air Forces warplanes have not stopped
>> > violating Lebanese air space since Israeli
>> > ground troops completed withdrawal from
>> > southern Lebanon in early October.
>> >
>> > Irritated by Israeli fighters' ongoing
>> > operations, Major General Alain Pellegrini
>> > of France, commander of UN Interim Forcein
>> > Lebanon (UNIFIL) warned last week that the
>> > UN troops might need to change the rules of
>> > engagement to allow the use of anti-aircraft
>> > missiles against Israeli jets.
>>
>> You mean the violations that have been going on BEFORE the unprovoked
>> attack by the terrorist state of israel?
>>
>>
> What unprovoked attack?
>
>



Mike
2006-10-28 20:21:13 EST

Whip wrote:
> The USS Liberty': America's Most Shameful Secret
> by Eric S. Margolis
...
> Much more important, the US government's long, disgraceful cover-up of the
> premeditated attack on 'Liberty' has now burst into the open and demands
> full-scale investigation. After 34 years, the voices of 'Liberty's' dead and
> wounded seamen must finally be heard.
> May 2, 2001
> Copyright Eric S. Margolis 2001
> Eric Margolis [send him mail] is foreign correspondent for the Toronto Sun.

Well, let's see what Morgolis' not only repeating various Bamford myths
in 2001 (that's five long years ago) but generating a few of his own
resulted in:

"Johnson ordered a thorough investigation of the facts surrounding
the attack. After extensive investigations, the Central Intelligence
Agency and the National Security Agency concluded that there was
"little doubt" that the attacking Israeli units "failed to
identify the Liberty as a US ship before or during the attack" and
that they had mistakenly identified the ship as Egyptian. Subsequently,
the Central Intelligence Agency repeated the conclusion that the
Israeli attack was a mistake although it was "both incongruous and
indicative of gross negligence." Clark Clifford also examined the
evidence at Walt Rostow's request and concluded that there was no
evidence that the attack was intentional."

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/johnsonlb/xix/28165.htm


Mike
2006-10-28 20:37:41 EST

Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
> Israel Air Forces warplanes have not stopped
> violating Lebanese air space since Israeli
> ground troops completed withdrawal from
> southern Lebanon in early October.
>
> Irritated by Israeli fighters' ongoing
> operations, Major General Alain Pellegrini
> of France, commander of UN Interim Forcein
> Lebanon (UNIFIL) warned last week that the
> UN troops might need to change the rules of
> engagement to allow the use of anti-aircraft
> missiles against Israeli jets.

UNIFIL denies French threat to fire on intruding Israeli jets

By Rym Ghazal
Daily Star staff
Wednesday, October 18, 2006


F*@verizon.net
2006-10-30 01:53:33 EST

On 28-Oct-2006, "Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote:

> "Saberman" <Saberman@xemaps.com> wrote in message
> news:2PKdnRt-PeGfhd7YnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
> > > Israel Air Forces warplanes

Nice of them to admit that it's really Jews they hate (as per the header).

> > > have not stopped
> > > violating Lebanese air space since Israeli
> > > ground troops completed withdrawal from
> > > southern Lebanon in early October.
> > >
> > > Irritated by Israeli fighters' ongoing
> > > operations, Major General Alain Pellegrini
> > > of France, commander of UN Interim Forcein
> > > Lebanon (UNIFIL) warned last week that the
> > > UN troops might need to change the rules of
> > > engagement to allow the use of anti-aircraft
> > > missiles against Israeli jets.
> >
> > You mean the violations that have been going on BEFORE the unprovoked
> > attack by the terrorist state of israel?
> >
> >
> What unprovoked attack?

The same imaginary spectre as the "illegal state [sic]".

Susan

Zr
2006-10-30 14:15:01 EST
Wouldn't that be an interesting loss of UN planes, considering that Israeli
pilots are ranked in the worlds top 3 most capable.

"Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer" <nobody@cypherpunks.to> wrote
in message news:20061028071510.B27BB171CD@mail.cypherpunks.to...
> Israel Air Forces warplanes have not stopped
> violating Lebanese air space since Israeli
> ground troops completed withdrawal from
> southern Lebanon in early October.
>
> Irritated by Israeli fighters' ongoing
> operations, Major General Alain Pellegrini
> of France, commander of UN Interim Forcein
> Lebanon (UNIFIL) warned last week that the
> UN troops might need to change the rules of
> engagement to allow the use of anti-aircraft
> missiles against Israeli jets.
>
>
>
>


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