Author Naomi Klein: America is succumbing to fascism
Nick Langewis and Mike Aivaz Published: Saturday October 13, 2007
Author Naomi Klein sits down with Bill Maher to discuss her new book, The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism. The Shock Doctrine shares a sentiment that, while corporations are engineered to profit off of situations, planned or otherwise, the United States under President Bush has corporations opportunistically poised to collect taxpayer-funded payouts from disasters such as 9/11, Katrina and the Iraq occupation.
Calling it the "mission statement of the Bush administration," Klein says that politicians are seeing themselves as facilitators between disasters and their friends in the private sector. Each time there's a disaster, says Klein, politicians use the "shock" felt by the citizenry to "push through a further privatization agenda" with little opposition.
"In New Orleans," continues Klein, "it's the privatization of the school system, the public housing. After September 11th, it was the launching of a new economy in privatized homeland security, and in Iraq it's the Blackwater economy--The worse things get in Iraq, the more privatized--and profitable--this war becomes.
So it's not about the corporations taking advantage; we expect corporations to do that. It's about the politicians who think the government should be an ATM machine and just transfer wealth to their friends in exchange for a deposit in the form of campaign contributions."
"But you're talking about our government and corporations as if they're two different things," quips Maher. "Now, we all know that communism is when the government takes over private business. But, when corporations take over the government, that is what has been defined as fascism.
Do you think that's where we're at?"
Klein agrees, adding: "You could call it crony capitalism, you could call it corporatism; but it certainly not the free market."
"And, the irony is," she continues, "it's the free market ideology that gets used to propel this vision forward which has absolutely nothing to do with--it's not free for anybody but the contractors..."
Governments have historically colluded with business to manipulate the public after traumatic events, says Klein; The Shock Doctrine, she says, aims to prepare the public for the next disaster, as to not remain vulnerable to big business and big government.
The following video is from HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher, broadcast on October 12, 2007.
2008-08-11 10:07:32 EST
On 11-Aug-2008, "NewsToBeRead" <NewsToBeRead@USA.Com> wrote:
> Author Naomi Klein: America is succumbing to fascism
if we keep voting for the left, yes
see Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
-- bill-o Play the ball as it lies. Play the course as you find it. And if you can\ufffdt do either, do what is fair.
2008-08-11 15:11:17 EST
<*email@example.com> wrote in message news:48a047a4$0$26205$882e0bbb@news.ThunderNews.com... > > On 11-Aug-2008, "NewsToBeRead" <NewsToBeRead@USA.Com> wrote: > >> Author Naomi Klein: America is succumbing to fascism > > if we keep voting for the left, yes
--------------------------------------------- See the TRUTH - that it is the Neo-cons, the extreme RIGHT-WING, that have led us into fascism!
CONSERVATIVES VS. LIBERALS: THE NATURE OF THE BEAST
It all began a hundred thousand years ago on a ledge in front of a cave. A female homo sapiens walked by, attracting the attention of a male. The male stepped forward and smacked her over the head with his club. WHACK! He then dragged the unconscious female into his cave for sex.
One day there were two males standing in front of a cave when a female walked by. The first raised his arm to club the female, but the second male communicated to him that clubbing females over the head to have sex was not nice. WHACK! WHACK! The first male stepped over the unconscious second male and proceeded to rape the female. On that day the first liberal paid the price for expressing a new idea.
Things didn't change much for thousands of years until the advent of projectile weapons. This was first symbolized by the David and Goliath story in the Bible, where the big strong brute was laid flat by the small but smarter boy. Once brute strength was no longer the controlling factor in social interaction, liberal ideas slowly gained a foothold in human culture, and civilization began.
Throughout human history, the price for advocating tolerance and progressive change has been paid in threats, beatings, excommunication, incarceration, torture, murder, assassination, and execution. Countless liberals have paid the ultimate price for their humanity. Though Jesus Christ is the most famous, names in recent history that come to mind are Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., John Lennon, and Robert Kennedy.
Today there are many conservatives - individuals, groups, and nations - who use threats and violence to silence the voices of reason, tolerance, and progress. Here in America it is seen in racists and homophobes beating blacks and gays, sometimes to death, not for money or out of anger generated by interactive cause, but because of religious or racial intolerance and secular bigotry.
Alan Berg on talk radio was a strong voice against a conservative organization called the Aryan Nation. For thus exercising his freedom of speech, he was shot dead while walking his dog in front of his house.
David Rice is a man on death row in Washington State who has no remorse whatsoever for entering the home of a family of four and carving out their living hearts only because he heard they were "liberals." He got their names from a Democratic Party membership list.
Right-wingers Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols killed 168 men, women, and children as an act of protest. What liberals have ever committed such an abominable atrocity?
The most abominable atrocity in several decades is the 9/11 terrorist attacks in which thousands of innocent civilians were murdered. The alleged perpetrators, Osama Bin Laden and the al Qaeda-Taliban terrorists, epitomize the right-wing religious fundamentalist mentality.
Some believe that the 9/11 attacks were deliberately allowed to happen, exacerbated, or even perpetrated by radical right-wing elements within our own government to further their fascistic agenda. Two buildings were hit by planes, but THREE collapsed. The evidence that the three collapsed buildings were brought down with demolition explosives put in place BEFORE the attacks is very strong.
Arguing that such horrendous crimes are not political in nature or that they are not done primarily by conservatives is utter nonsense. Look back:
Who nailed who to a cross?
Who were the Loyalists to the totalitarian monarchy of King George?
Who started our Civil War to defend slavery?
Who fought to keep women as property, and now fights their sovereignty over their own bodies in the freedom to choose abortion?
Who fought against child labor statutes?
Who fought against the concept of free public education?
Who fought against the right of women to vote?
Who fought against anti-trust and anti-monopoly legislation?
Who fought against workers organizing?
Who fought against government controls on manufacturers of cars "unsafe at any speed?"
Who killed several thousand innocent civilians in the 9/11 terrorist attacks?
Who started WW2, murdered 13 million and caused the death of 40 million more?
Who defended Jim Crow for a hundred years?
Who fought against voting rights, civil rights, social security, health care for the elderly, and minimum wages?
Who fights against environmental protection statutes?
Who opposes equal rights for gays and other free-lifestyle minorities?
Who cruelly opposes physician-assisted dying for suffering, terminally ill patients soon to die anyway?
Who is sabotaging the separation of Church and State, and all our other Constitutional rights, freedoms, and protections?
Who are the moralizing hypocrites forcing their puritanical inhibitions and prohibitions on ALL Americans via legislation and draconian, police-state enforcement practices?
Who always puts personal gain and corporate wealth and power above the common good?
CONSERVATIVES OR LIBERALS?
The historic, undeniable truth is that these evils are THE NATURE OF THE CONSERVATIVE BEAST!
Conservatives have distorted and demonized the word "liberal," whose true political meaning is favoring progressive change, humanistic values, and opposition to authoritarianism. They identify it with governmental waste and tolerance of criminality, when in fact they themselves are guilty of abuses such as corporate welfare bail-outs and tax evasion, fraud against investors, and other white-collar crime. Conservatives fear and oppose all change and progress beyond "what's in it for me?"
At the core of conservatism is the Machiavellian bully - the despotic practitioner of "might makes right," craving wealth and power, and willing to use any and all means to get them. Conservatism is the philosophy of the caveman wearing a business suit.
AND THE CAVEMENS' CLUBS CAN NOW DESTROY OUR EARTH!
2008-08-11 20:44:47 EST
Did you ever wonder why America is declining in popularity around the world, and especially in Europe?
Perhaps it might have something to do with America's increasingly common image as a puppet-state of International Jewry. Perhaps it might also have something to do with growing European resentment toward being bossed around by U.S. Congressmen who are first and foremost lackeys of the Jewish power structure. Yes, that's right -- United States Congressmen are spending more and more of their time instructing European nations about what steps they should take to control the growing awareness of destructive Jewish behaviors throughout Europe. Not only has entrance into NATO for some nations been predicated upon approval by the American Jewish Committee, but there exists a little known official U.S. Government agency called "The Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe", also known as "The Helsinki Commission," which consists of nine members from the United States Senate, nine members from the House of Representatives, and one member each from the Departments of State, Defense and Commerce. A professional staff assists the Commissioners in their work -- and a glance at their website at <http://www.csce.gov> will readily confirm that their work has recently focused on squelching justifiable criticism of Jewish involvement in the national and international affairs of European nations -- or what they refer to as "combating anti-Semitism." Our American tax dollars are not only being spent to support an illegitimate Jewish theocracy (Israel), but we are also funding American intervention in European affairs on behalf of International Jewry.
Led by Congressman Christopher Smith of New Jersey, "our" congress is working feverishly to coerce European leaders to further suppress any criticism of Jewish activities, no matter how mild that criticism may be. In the April 30, 2003 edition of the Congressional Record you will find examples of Smith's shameless application of political pressure on sovereign European nations:
>From [United States of America PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE 108th CONGRESS, FIRST SESSION Vol. 149 Washington, Wednesday, April 30, 2003], we read Smith's own words as he says
"The U.S. Helsinki Commission, which I co-chair, has worked with the Museum on several occasions, from pushing for the release of documents from the Romani concentration camp in Lety, Czech Republic, to urging Romania to give greater meaning to its stated commitment of rejecting anti-Semitism by removing Antonescu statues from public lands. In response to the alarming spike of anti-Semitic incidents found last summer in Europe, myself and other Members of the Commission have been very active in urging governments and elected officials to denounce the violence and ensure their laws are enabled to prosecute the perpetrators. In support of this effort, I have introduced H. Con. Res. 49, urging, among other things, European states to 'promote the creation of educational efforts throughout the region encompassing the participating States of the OSCE to counter anti-Semitic stereotypes and attitudes among younger people, increase Holocaust awareness programs, and help identify the necessary resources to accomplish this goal.' It is my hope that other countries will copy the unique and effective model of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum."
Smith is not alone in his demands. Congressman Joseph Crowley of New York wants to suppress any critical discussion of Jewish behavior: [ Ibid., SUBMITTED REMARKS OF HON. JOSEPH CROWLEY, MEMBER, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES]
"Mr. Chairman, thank you for the opportunity to address this distinguished forum. I am greatly concerned by the rise of anti-Semitism throughout the OSCE region....In the 21st century, countries in Europe, the Caucasus, and Central Asia should not witness attacks against Jews... Nor should these countries tolerate the hatred spewed by skinheads and other radical groups throughout the region. Such hatred has brought catastrophe to the region in our lifetimes already, and we must ensure that the fields of Europe and Asia are not sown with the seeds of intolerance ever again. It is the responsibility of the OSCE governments to set a zero tolerance policy for anti-Semitic speech and acts. In their OSCE commitments, all governments pledged to condemn anti-Semitism unequivocally and take effective measures to... prosecute those who commit such hate crimes..."
The OSCE site also features the speech of one Juliane Danker-Wetze, who bewails the fact that some European thinkers are starting to connect the dots and find that they form a Star of David:
"Jews are imagined [sic] to be a national and international influential group who allegedly exert a bad influence on or even steer politics, the economy and the media, which is a way of expressing the old anti-Semitic prejudice of hidden Jewish power." [<http://tinyurl.com/cuam> ]
And the so-called Helsinki Commission, which was founded in 1976 supposedly to further human rights under Soviet Communism, recently heard from one of the main opponents of the right of free speech, none other than the Jewish ADL. [ <http://www.ncsj.org/AuxPages/121102JTA.shtml> ] Though they sugar-coat the language, what the ADL is really "pushing" (their word) the supine Congressmen to do is to make criticism of our 'superhuman' self-chosen masters illegal. The Jewish Telegraphic Agency informs us:
"Jewish leaders are pushing the White House and Congress to take a firmer stance against European anti-Semitism. A group of German and American lawmakers heard Tuesday from Jewish leaders who expressed concern about the rise of anti-Semitism in Europe. The Jewish leaders also suggested ways to combat anti-Semitism in states that participate in the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. 'Many European Jews today feel more vulnerable, disillusioned and frightened than at any time since the Holocaust,' said Ambassador Alfred Moses, past president of the American Jewish Committee and a former U.S. ambassador to Romania. 'I know from my personal experience that anti-Semitism is never far below the surface in Central and Eastern Europe.' The Anti-Defamation League presented a series of recommendations on combating the problem, including urging political leaders to speak out against bigotry, strengthening administrative, legal and monitoring instruments and using educational initiatives. 'While the last century witnessed the most heinous results of bigotry unchecked, fortunately we also have witnessed in our lifetime powerful examples of how strong U.S. and German leadership have brought about dramatic change,' said Kenneth Jacobson, ADL's associate national director. 'America and Germany, each having learned painful lessons from their respective past experiences with the danger of bigotry, are uniquely positioned to lead the OSCE' ...The visit to Washington by members of the German Bundestag was a follow-up to a July session in Berlin on anti-Semitism. Moses noted that incidents of anti-Semitism have risen in Europe because of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Israel's ties to the United States and the momentum that right-wing groups have been gaining in some European countries. U.S. and German lawmakers signed a letter of intent to strengthen their work against anti-Semitism, use educational initiatives and urge other parliaments to follow their lead."
As Robert Faurisson once said at a meeting in Washington, D.C. "by 'human rights' is usually meant 'Jewish rights'" -- which follows the notion, enshrined in the Jewish 'holy book,' the Talmud, that only Jews are human and that non-Jews are equivalent to beasts. And isn't that what the Helsinki Commission is currently all about? -- keeping the European cattle from getting too uppity and questioning their keepers and questioning why they are kept in economic and political pens?
The Helsinki Commission isn't the only group under the thumb of organized Jews, manipulating governments behind the scenes. A secretive group with the Orwellian-sounding name of the 'Office of Special Plans' also deserves our attention.
The 'Office of Special Plans' is nominally within the Pentagon and is headed by a Jew named Abram Shulsky. It is of very recent incarnation, having been created by several Jewish handlers of George Bush with the explicit purpose of expanding the U.S.-led war for Israel in the Mideast.
The Jews who came to power under Bush, or rather over Bush, saw 9/11 as an almost heaven-sent opportunity to get the despised Americans crying tears for their dead countrymen (the deaths of whom the Israeli Mossad, who had been following Mohammed Atta for months, probably condoned to create that very opportunity), and to get the same stupid American goyim fired up for having themselves and Moslem goyim slaughtered in the Middle East for Holy Israel's sake. Afghanistan was their first and easy target, but Iraq was a harder nut to crack.
The neoconservative Jews' thirst for Iraqi blood began years before 9-11, of course, as did their determination to find a justification for spilling it. As early as March 2001, Richard Perle, then Bush's new chairman of the Defense Policy Board, made the claim that Iraq almost certainly had nuclear weapons. [ <http://tinyurl.com/cukp> ] In one of the most bizarre cases of Jewish triplespeak I have ever heard, Perle actually argued before Congress that Saddam had to have these weapons specifically because our intelligence indicated that he did not: "Does Saddam now have weapons of mass destruction? Sure he does. How far he's gone on the nuclear-weapon side I don't think we really know. My guess is it's further than we think. It's always further than we think, because we limit ourselves, as we think about this, to what we're able to prove and demonstrate." Now, limiting yourself to what you can prove and demonstrate is certainly dangerous. At least it is dangerous to Jews, as with their fantastic tales of World War II persecution that are as profitable as they are fictitious. Instead of limiting ourselves to facts, far better for us to believe whatever tales the Jews want us to believe and launch another world war. Now that's safe!
The Jews wanted to destroy Iraq because Iraq's secular Arab government was a bulwark against Israeli expansionism and aggression in the region. But that reason wasn't enough to convince the American people. Since the hated-by-Jews Americans were still somewhat exercised over the deaths of Americans on 9-11, the Jews decided that a case had to be made that Iraq was somehow involved in international terrorism and possessed so-called Weapons of Mass Destruction which could, conceivably, threaten Americans.
The problem was that there was no evidence for this claim.
Neither the Central Intelligence Agency nor the Defense Intelligence Agency could discover any credible evidence showing that Iraq supported al-Qaeda -- in fact, the opposite was true. And the CIA and the DIA also could find no evidence whatever that Iraq possessed any of the dreaded 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' that could threaten America. Bush's Jewish handlers found this situation intolerable. They wanted their war and they were going to get their war, by hook or by crook.
In the same way that they 'know' that 'God is the Jewish people' they also 'knew' that Saddam must have nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons capable of harming or at least frightening Americans. It would serve their purposes if that were true, so it must be true. The trouble was that the CIA and the DIA weren't buying it. The facts that their extensive intelligence networks turned up all indicated the opposite.
The frustration of Bush's Jewish handlers was profound. What to do? Create their own intelligence-agency-lite. And so the Office of Special Plans was born. The small group of influential Jews who run this secretive outfit even call it -- in typically Jewish mockery of those who expose Jewish conspiracy -- "the Cabal." [ <http://tinyurl.com/b26r> ]
Starting with just two staff people and never having more than five (compared to the CIA and DIA with their thousands of agents and analysts worldwide) and led by the Jew Abram Shulsky, the Office of Special Plans was designed at the outset to feed Rumsfeld and Bush, via Wolfowitz and Feith, a series of lies which would cause them to question the intelligence agencies' reports.
Jewish writer Robert Dreyfuss describes the procedure:
"Rumsfeld noted that a primary purpose of the unit was to provide him with ammunition that he could use to harass the CIA staffer who briefs him every morning. 'In comes the briefer, and she walks through the daily brief and I ask questions,' said Rumsfeld. 'What I could do is say, Gee, what about this? Or what about that? Has somebody thought of this?' Using powerful computers and having access to reams of intelligence factoids, Feith's team could create a steady stream of data bits that Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Feith himself could use to pick apart the CIA's conclusions, sending the CIA's collectors and analysts back to rewrite their reports." And, of course, preventing the real intelligence reports from being believed and from giving the President any second thoughts about obeying any of the orders of the neoconservative Jews who surround him.
W. Patrick Lang, former chief of Middle East intelligence at the D.I.A., admitted that this group has pulled a real coup and has "...banded together to dominate the government's foreign policy, and they've pulled it off. They're running Chalabi. The D.I.A. has been intimidated and beaten to a pulp. And there's no guts at all in the C.I.A.."
Jewish writer Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker, quotes an unnamed Pentagon advisor who worked with the Office of Special Plans as crowing about Wolfowitz, Shulsky, and their coup: "I'd love to be the historian who writes the story of how this small group of eight or nine people made the case and won," defeating the combined might of the CIA and DIA.
Shulsky has had a long relationship with the Jewish power structure, and is described as the intellectual heir of Jewish philosopher Leo Strauss of the University of Chicago, a person who, for some unknown reason, decided to flee Europe in 1937. Shulsky and Wolfowitz both received their doctorates under Strauss in 1972. It is most revealing, I think, to consider Wolfowitz and Shulsky as students of Strauss when one of Strauss's major themes as a philosopher, according to Stephen Holmes, a law professor at New York University, was the idea that "philosophers need to tell noble lies not only to the people at large but also to powerful politicians." I'll say that again -- a guiding principle of this small Jewish cabal that even calls itself "the Cabal" that tells our government what to do is that "philosophers need to tell noble lies not only to the people at large but also to powerful politicians." "Noble lies," of course, are lies which advance the interests of the Jews.
Vincent Cannistraro, the former head of anti-terrorism operations and analysis at the C.I.A., stated of this Jewish group: "...they all work together. This has been going on since the nineteen-eighties, but they've never been able to coalesce as they have now. September 11th gave them the opportunity, and now they're in heaven. They believe the intelligence is there. They want to believe it. It has to be there."
The Office of Special Plans also had a very cozy relationship with the criminal and con-man Ahmed Chalabi of the so-called Iraqi National Congress, who is very eager to become the Jews' front man in Iraq, and who "cooperated" by making up stories which could then be attributed to "Iraqi defectors" when recited for the President. Experienced intelligence analysts dismiss the tales told by Chalabi as totally worthless fictions. [ <http://www.prospect.org/print/V13/22/dreyfuss-r.html> ] Columnist Harold Meyerson calls what the Office of Special Plans did "faith-based intelligence." I call it Shilling for Sharon. The short name of course, is simply lying. And these liars not only influenced our not-so-bright leaders, but fed their false stories to the mainly Jewish-controlled media who used them influence the public to support the Jews' new war.
The Jews' plan worked quite well. They got the ear of the President, his superstitious heart, and his easily-befuddled brain. They got their war. But it was all based on lies. It has been many weeks since the fall of Iraq, and no evidence of Iraqi "Weapons of Mass Destruction" have been found. Even Task Force 75, the armed services team specifically created to root out Saddam's supposedly hidden and supposedly illegal arsenal has found nothing and is actually closing up shop.
The Office of Special Plans is nothing but an odious Jewish lie factory.
It is this Jewish lie factory that will soon attempt to start another war, this time for 'regime change' in Iran. [ <http://tinyurl.com/cusy> ] They're already gearing up for a battle with diplomats in the State Department who oppose the Iranian step in the Jews' world war. They're already arranging meetings between a pretender to the Iranian throne and Ariel Sharon. William Kristol's Weekly Standard is already banging the war drums against Iran, and another Jew, Michael Rubin, is already concentrating on Iran from within Shulsky's Office of Special Plans. We told you months ago on American Dissident Voices that this was going to happen, and the Office of Special Plans is making our prediction come true.
It is from this Jewish lie factory that came the tales that Colin Powell told the UN about Iraq's purchase of nuclear material from Nigeria. It is from this Jewish lie factory that the story of a "ring" of chemical weapons around Baghdad originated. It is from this Jewish lie factory that came the 'revelation' that al-Qaeda and Saddam were allies. It is this Jewish lie factory that killed innocent children and blew off their heads and arms and legs. It is this Jewish lie factory that killed your son and maimed your daughter.
Their intelligence was worthless. Their lies were priceless. You're being killed because you believe in the emperor's new clothes. The purpose of this program is to stop you from believing in lies; to help you understand how you are being ruled; to help you see reality; to save your family, your country, and your life.
2008-08-12 18:38:20 EST
"Topaz" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message news:email@example.com... > > Did you ever wonder why America is declining in popularity around > the world, and especially in Europe?
Yes, because of the bullying, imperialistic aggressions of the RIGHT WING neo-cons!
2008-08-13 06:41:07 EST
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:38:20 GMT, "Freedom Fighter" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>"Topaz" <email@example.com> wrote in message >news:firstname.lastname@example.org... >> >> Did you ever wonder why America is declining in popularity around >> the world, and especially in Europe? > >Yes, because of the bullying, imperialistic aggressions of the RIGHT WING >neo-cons! >
The myth that neo-cons are "right wing" started with the communist menace.
Neo-cons are libertarians. Capitalism is libertarian. Their huffing and puffing about homosexual perversion does not mean they are going to outlaw it. They can't outlaw it, they are libertarians and stand for "smaller government".
It all began with the Christian right, these people were against homosexual perversion, prostitution, pornography, abortion, drugs, gambling, etc. They were as un-libertarian as you can get.
Then the Communists, (communism was Jewish), began to slaughter Christians by the millions. So then it was assumed that the "right wing" must be the opposite of Communism.
Even though Communists are libertarian at heart:
Here is what the real Communist Ron Allen wrote: Although there were and are differences between the anarchists and the Marxists, nevertheless the libertarian marxists believe that the possible, anticipated future they both desire and demand will be an anarchist future, not an authoritarian future. The hope that the state will wither away is a marxist hope, and the will to abolish the state is an anarchist will.
This is from the Communist party USA http://www.cpusa.org/article/static/758/ "Communists advocate socialism as the first phase of a new stage of society, but we don't think that social and economic development will end at socialism. We see socialist society eventually leading to a higher phase-communism-where the capitalist class and all classes will have disappeared, replaced by a commonwealth of all working people, and where national and racial enmity and prejudice will be things of the past. In communist society, the essentials of life will be plentiful and readily available to all, and the repressive apparatus of government will wither away leaving purely administrative functions."
Even though the Communists believed in libertarianism, the Soviet Union was anything but.
The Communists pretended to be for "the workers", but they were correctly against Capitalism.
So then it was assumed that the right wing must be for Capitalism and therefore for libertarianism.
What we have is a media (which is also Jewish) telling us that the only legitimate opponants of Jewish liberalism are the Capitalists, and the "right wing" are supposedly the libertarian capitalists.
The neo-cons are nothing but the Jews and the minions of Jews.
The original "Christian right" is forgotten. And on their list of evils, homosexual perversion, prostitution etc, greed should also be on that list. Capitalism should be on their list of evils.
2008-08-13 10:28:12 EST
email@example.com wrote in news:48a047a4$0$26205 $*b@news.ThunderNews.com:
> > On 11-Aug-2008, "NewsToBeRead" <NewsToBeRead@USA.Com> wrote: > >> Author Naomi Klein: America is succumbing to fascism > > if we keep voting for the left, yes > > see Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg >
2008-08-13 15:15:10 EST
"Topaz" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message news:email@example.com... > On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:38:20 GMT, "Freedom Fighter" <firstname.lastname@example.org> > wrote: > >>"Topaz" <email@example.com> wrote in message >>news:firstname.lastname@example.org... >>> >>> Did you ever wonder why America is declining in popularity around >>> the world, and especially in Europe? >> >>Yes, because of the bullying, imperialistic aggressions of the RIGHT WING >>neo-cons! >>
> The myth that neo-cons are "right wing" started with the communist > menace.
WHAT menace? The one that existed mainly in paranoid McCarthyist minds?
> Neo-cons are libertarians.
To say this, you must be delusional. The personal freedoms and rights of American citizens - or anyone - are the LAST thing these facscists care about.
> Capitalism is libertarian. Their huffing > and puffing about homosexual perversion does not mean they are going > to outlaw it. They can't outlaw it, they are libertarians and stand > for "smaller government".
Your homophobia is becoming obsessive. See a shrink!
Your rants are not worth any more of my time -
2008-08-14 19:59:13 EST
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:15:10 GMT, "Freedom Fighter" <email@example.com> wrote:
> >WHAT menace? The one that existed mainly in paranoid McCarthyist minds?
Here is a letter by Otto Deissenroth, Military Post Number 12 827D In the East, 30.7.1941
Dear Comrade Karl ! I write this letter from the desolation of a Ukrainian forest village, 40 kilometers from Kiev, which we hope to capture in a few days. The fruitful land of the Ukraine is all around us, but 20 years of Bolshevist mismanagement have brought it to ruin. The poverty, misery and filth we have seen and experienced in the past weeks is indescribable. You back home cannot imagine the terrible results of Bolshevism in this fruitful land. Everything that we formerly read in newspapers and books pales in the face of the terrible reality. Our eyes look in vain for some sign of construction, for a trace of progress, for a bit of culture. We yearn for the sight of a clean house, an orderly street, a few tended gardens, a few trees! Wherever we look there is filth, decay, desolation, misery, death and suffering! Everywhere we see the ghost of Bolshevism in the tortured look of farmers, the blank stares of captives, the hundreds of murdered people, the farm houses of impoverished buildings and ruined houses. I sometimes think it is all the work of the devil.
The land was rich when it was inhabited by German, Ukrainian, Czech and Polish farmers. Then Bolshevism came, and with it enormous misery. Everything that was prosperous or cultured was killed or burned. I spoke with dozens of people whose family members, fathers, husbands, brothers and sons perished somewhere in Murmansk, Siberia or the icy north. Thousands died during the great famine, particularly in 1932-1933. Thousands more ended up in prisons and jails. The misery of those freed from Bolshevism is indescribable. Any free expression was prohibited, any movement banned.
Everything in nature that was beautiful, good and free was destroyed. Everything created by God was exterminated! They took the blessing from the land and the soul from the people. They reduced them to the level of animals, impotent, miserable enslaved animals with no hope of life who did not know if they would be alive tomorrow, who lived from hand to mouth, and were happy only when someone killed them. Hell can be no worse that this "Soviet paradise." There is no hope of salvation. What Bolshevism has done to humanity is a sin against God, a crime one cannot begin to understand. Every German who formerly thought Bolshevism was a worthy idea and who threatened we National Socialists with death and bloodshed only because we didn't believe in this nonsense should be ashamed! We were right! We are all shaken and moved as we face this misery, this suffering, this hopeless Bolshevist life. They stole everything from these people except the very air they breathed. The land they inherited from their fathers became a collective, the property of the state, and they became slaves worse than those of the darkest Middle Ages in Germany. They had a tiny plot of land of their own, and even that was heavily taxed. They had to report to the collective's commissars each morning, work the whole day, even Sunday, with no free time. They belonged to the state. They were supposedly paid, but rarely saw the money. They got 33 kopeks a day, about a third of a Mark. They owned no plow, no spade, no wagon, no yoke. Everything supposedly belonged to everyone, everything belonged to the state.
The Jews and party bigwigs lived in prosperity, the farmers had only hunger, misery, work and death. No one felt himself responsible for the soil, no one felt the love we Germans have for our homeland, for the soil that is ours. The knowledge of blood and soil had died out. I spoke with 30-year-olds who did not understand the concept of property. They had been educated in Soviet schools. That explains why they had no sense of culture, no need for it. Their homes are empty, cold and desolate, much poorer than in Poland. No pictures, no flowers break the desolation. The art of cooking also disappeared, given the food shortages. The daily diet consists of milk and bread, along with a bit of honey and a few potatoes. When one see this dismal poverty, one is reminded that these Bolshevist animals wanted to bring culture to us industrious, clean and creative Germans. How God has blessed us! How justified is the Führer's claim to European leadership! The poorest German village is a pearl in comparison to these ruined Russian villages.
Sometimes as I face the thousands of murdered people that we found in the cities and villages, and in the numerous occasions where we found women and children wailing over the corpses of their family members, or when they asked us to free their men who had been hauled off just before we arrived, I see the Führer before me. He saved an enslaved and raped humanity, giving it once more divine freedom and the blessing of a worthy existence. The last and deepest reason for this war is to restore the natural and godly order. It is a battle against slavery, against Bolshevist insanity. I am proud, deeply proud, that I may fight against this Bolshevist monster, fighting once again the enemy I fought to destroy during the hard years of struggle in Germany. I am proud of the wounds I suffered during the election battles in Germany, and I am proud of my new wounds, and of the medal that I now wear. It is as if the people here are awakening from a deep sleep. They cannot yet believe in their new freedom; they do not know where to begin. They sit down and wait for orders. Now they have them: "Go back to work, harvest the fields, now you have your own home." That is what all the posters say, and one sees the masses at work in the fields. Man and nature are free again, God has his place once more, his eternal order has been restored. We National Socialist soldiers of Adolf Hitler have restored the godly order, though some call us heathens. That is the way life is. And what did those who spoke about God do? Ask them!"
The Soviet Union was in fact a paradise for one group: the Jews. Even at times when for foreign policy reasons Jews were less evident in the government, or when they ruled through straw men, the Jews were always visible in the middle and lower levels of the administration. During the whole period of the red dictatorship, they were the beneficiaries. This was clearest in the small nations that the Soviet Union was using to prepare for its attack on the Greater German Reich after the outbreak of Churchill's war, above all in the Baltic states.
Fred Fallnbigl wrote to his Parents in Salzburg, 17.7.41
I wrote in my last two letters about Russian atrocities, and could fill volumes more. But a bit more from the Soviet Paradise. I'll especially tell you about things that happened in Lemberg-Tarnopol and Tromborla. Tromborla is due south of Tarnopol. I saw the prisons in Lemberg, and saw things that struck me deeply. There were men with their ears and noses cut off, etc. They had nailed children alive by their hands and feet to the wall, butchering them. The blood was ankle deep. It didn't make any difference if they were alive or dead. They doused the piles of bodies with gasoline and set them on fire. The stench was terrible. I saw similar things in Tarnopol and Tromborla. In T. seven Ukrainians were hauled out of their beds after the Germans had arrived. The next morning their bodies were found in the woods, beaten until they were unrecognizable. I have seen all of this myself, they are not matters I heard about. Feel free to tell them to others, particularly those who may still think well of the Soviet Union.
I always think how fortunate we are that this scourge of humanity never made it to our country. I don't think that even years of preparation would make Germans capable of such atrocities
Paul Rubelt, Military Post Number 34 539 F, wrote to Miss Grete Egger, Lebring 71, Steieirark: 6.7.1941 "I was in Lemberg yesterday and saw a bloodbath. It was terrible. Many had their skin stripped off, men were castrated, their eyes poked out, arms or legs chopped off. Some were nailed to the wall, 30-40 were sealed into a small room and suffocated. About 650 people in this area must have died in such ways. The stench can be endured only if one smokes a cigarette and keeps a handkerchief over one's nose. The Jews did most of it. Now they have to dig the graves. The culprits will be shot. Many already died because of the stench. In this city they even opened graves and defiled the corpses. It is terrible. One can hardly believe that such people exist."
There are few families in Germany today who do not have a member, and therefore an eyewitness of Bolshevism. These letters already circulate within families and factories, villages and party local groups. Now they reach millions who are working for victory, giving them a broader picture of the experiences and impressions of their brothers and sons.
No one will put this pamphlet down without being deeply moved. His thoughts will then turn to the Führer, the man who in the midst of Germany's deepest disgrace was the first to recognize and oppose the communist enemy. The few units of the SA and the SS that opposed the Bolshevist-Jewish enemy when Moscow's terror still prevailed in the streets of our great cities, when Red revolution threatened whole states and provinces of the Reich, and Moscow's Foreign Legion murdered German men on German soil, now have the whole German people with them. The enormous columns of German regiments and divisions are striking Bolshevism deep in Russia. At the right time and with careful forethought, the Führer, side by side with all the awakened European nations, gave the command to save the West. The decision was difficult, the scale of the struggle vast, and the results tremendous.
Everyone today can see that the order given on 22 June 1941 was the greatest decision in Europe's life. The Bolshevist armies that today are being destroyed by the blows of the German army, blows from which they will never recover, were ready to attack Europe. Despite the treaties, the Bolshevist leaders were ready to attack when the hour was right. The presumed state of workers and soldiers had secret agreements with the plutocracies and capitalism. They were preparing the way for World Jewry to take over Central Europe.
If Stalin's tanks and planes had crossed our borders, it would have been the end of everything noble and beautiful in the world. Europe would have been filled with enslaved masses like the prisoners our soldiers find today in the East. A whole part of the world would have fallen into filth and misery if Adolf Hitler had not at the last moment intervened to forever eliminate the criminal danger.
We may not forget it. Moscow's criminals are praised as heroes and defenders of culture every day by the English and American press. People in London and New York pray for these animals in human form, and thousands of Jewish editors, speakers and radio announcers are at work recruiting American youth to shed their blood for these subhumans.
This lying and decaying world of plutocracy along with its Bolshevist allies may not and will not win. No sacrifice is too great in comparison to what is at risk, and what victory will bring us in the future.
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In March 1937 Mussolini made a spectacular state visit to Libya, where he opened a new military highway running the entire length of the colon., He had himself declared protector of Islam and was presented with a symbolic sword.
the Italian dictator Benito Mussolini arranged for Muslim notables from Italian-ruled Libya to gird him with the "sword of Islam" during a visit to Tripoli. "Muslims may rest assured," Mussolini intoned on that occasion, "that Italy will always be the friend and protector of Islam throughout the world." His foreign minister declared Muslim values perfectly compatible with fascism: "The Islamic world, in accordance with its traditions, loves in the Duce the wisdom of the statesman united to the action of the warrior."74
Mussolini vows to help the Palestinian cause against the Jews.
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Shrinks used to say homosexual perverts were perverted. Now the shrinks are politically correct. Here's why:
"Thus another weapon beside that of freemasonry would have to be secured. This was the Press. The Jew exercised all his skill and tenacity in getting hold of it. By means of the Press he began gradually to control public life in its entirety."