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Skepticl1
2008-08-24 16:05:09 EST
If you will put up with the Presidential Candidate lying about how
many homes and mansions he owns you will put up with anything because
you are slave. In The Soviet Union there were NO millioniares because
people were so equal. --Skeptic

Homes McCain doesn't remember having worth nearly $14 million Nick
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Published: Thursday August 21, 2008

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Even though John McCain can't remember how many houses he and his wife
own, his political opponents have been keeping track of the multi-
millionares' holdings.

All told, the seven properties at which the McCains can rest their
weary heads after long days on the campaign trail are valued at nearly
$14 million, according to two separate research documents obtained by
RAW STORY.

Perhaps we should cut the Republican presidential candidate some
slack, though, for his fuzzy memory when it comes to counting his
houses. With so many ranches, condos and beachfront properties spread
across the country, keeping track could prove a little tricky.

"I think -- I'll have my staff get back to you," McCain told two
curious Politico reporters Wednesday.

The gaffe has set Democrats on a new populist offensive trying to
paint McCain as an out-of-touch elitist. Democratic candidate Barack
Obama quickly released a Web ad hitting McCain over the home
controversy, and he and his surrogates were on the offensive
throughout the day Thursday.

"I guess if you think that being rich means you gotta make $5 million
and if you don't know how many houses you have, then it might not be
surprising that you think the economy is fundamentally strong," Obama
said. "But if you're like me and you've got one house, or you are like
the millions of people who are struggling right now to keep up with
their mortgage so they don't lose their home, you might have a
different perspective."

Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, a top prospect to become Obama's running
mate, joked to CNN that McCain couldn't say how many homes he had
because "he couldn't count high enough." (Video of Obama and Kain is
posted below.)

Outside groups like the AFL-CIO and Brave New Films have been making
the same argument in recent weeks.

McCain's staff seemed to lowball the family's property holdings,
telling Politico they have "at least four" homes in Arizona,
California and Virginia. And a worried campaign spokesman lashed out,
reciting some of the GOP's favorite attempts to paint Obama as the out-
of-touch elitist.

"Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back
from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-
dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get
into a debate about houses?" asked McCain spokesman Brian Rogers.
"Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular
people 'cling' to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship
really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular
Americans? The reality is that Barack Obama’s plans to raise taxes and
opposition to producing more energy here at home as gas prices
skyrocket show he’s completely out of touch with the concerns of
average Americans."

Estimates of how many homes McCain owns based on examinations of
property records in those states put the number between seven and 10,
but a precise number is difficult to pinpoint depending on how one
defines a distinct home. The properties often are owned by holding
companies or trusts controlled by McCain's wife Cindy, an heiress to
her father's beer distributorship fortune believed to be worth up to
$100 million.

The McCains famously like to vacation on their Sedona ranch -- in
fact, the Arizonan senator is heading there this weekend for a few
days away from the campaign trail. The 15-acre ranch where McCain
hosted members of his press corps this year holds six separate houses,
so does that count as one home or six?

In Phoenix, the McCains' primary residence is a nearly 7,000 square
foot condominium worth about $4.66 million. The McCains purchased two
condos in 2006 and knocked down some walls to create the massive space
in a high-rise that features valet parking, a rooftop swimming pool,
personal spa services and on-staff housekeepers, among other
amenities.

Whenever John or Cindy want some sun, sand and surf, they simply need
to jet off to either of their two beachfront condos in Coronado, CA,
worth a combined $4.8 million, according to property records.
Coronado, a small island near San Diego boasts the second best beach
in the country.

If they need a different view of the Pacific than Coronado's, the
McCains simply have to head about 15 miles up the coast to La Jolla,
CA, where they own another condo estimated to be worth about $1.1
million that's been in Cindy's family since the early 1970s.

The senior senator from Arizona, McCain is needed on Capitol Hill from
time to time. But fret not, dear constituents, he's not living under
some bridge, or squeezing himself into a Capitol Hill row house like
some common Democrat.

Thanks in large part to Cindy's fortune, the McCains sleep easy in
Washington's quiet suburbs whenever Capitol Hill beckons. The Cindy
Hensley McCain Family Trust puts them up in an $847,000 condo in
Arlington, where the couple has lived while in Washington since 1993.

There's also the matter of the McCains' daughter, 23-year-old Meghan.
While many 20-somethings are lucky if they get a car for a college
graduation gift, Meghan's present for finishing at Columbia University
was a $700,000 loft in a hip section of downtown Phoenix.

A GQ profile of Meghan McCain, whose only job at moment seems to be
blogging on her father's behalf, described the loft's interior as
looking "like a spaceship furnished by West Elm." Wooden block letters
arranged above McCain's kitchen cabinets spell the word indulge.

One wonders if this is a lesson the young McCain learned from her
parents, who, by the way, according to property records, paid for the
condo in cash.

(Link includes many photos):

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Homes_McCain_doesnt_remember_having_worth_0821.html

Sydney Diego
2008-08-24 16:13:41 EST
On Aug 24, 1:05 pm, skepticl1 <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
> If you will put up with the Presidential Candidate lying about how
> many homes and mansions he owns you will put up with anything

Well, we put up with you claiming to be a Socialist.......

> In The Soviet Union there were NO millioniares because
> people were so equal. --Skeptic

Some were more equal than others though eh?

Especially the politburo members with their Black Sea beachfront
properties, no waiting in line for a loaf of bread and a bottle of
vodka for them !

"What grew during the Brezhnev years were bureaucracy and the size of
the Communist Party - with many Party members working in
bureaucracies. And growing too were the number of vacation residences,
pensions, perks and privileges for Party members. In the eyes of the
common Soviet citizen, corruption was growing alongside economic
stagnation"

go do your homework rube


2008-08-25 02:46:10 EST
On 24 Aug, 13:13, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
> On Aug 24, 1:05�pm, skepticl1 <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > If you will put up with the Presidential Candidate lying about how
> > many homes and mansions he owns you will put up with anything
>
> Well, we put up with you claiming to be a Socialist.......
>
> > In The Soviet Union there were NO millioniares because
> > people were so equal. --Skeptic
>
> Some were more equal than others though eh?
>
> Especially the politburo members with their Black Sea beachfront
> properties, no waiting in line for a loaf of bread and a bottle of
> vodka for them !
>
> "What grew during the Brezhnev years were bureaucracy and the size of
> the Communist Party - with many Party members working in
> bureaucracies. And growing too were the number of vacation residences,
> pensions, perks and privileges for Party members. In the eyes of the
> common Soviet citizen, corruption was growing alongside economic
> stagnation"
>
> go do your homework rube

What you describe about the USSR can't begin to touch the inequality
that is everyday practice in the United Snakes. A country which has
presided over a world built on slums. Your guy even lies about how
many mansions he owns. Today's US politicians are reelected in higher
percentages than the Soviet Proletbrearu. In The Soviet Union and when
China was Socialist, it was the most equal society there ever was.
McCain has as many as 16 mansions. In the USSR people were on such an
equal level there weren't even millionaires. You are a slave who
thinks his iron collars is an expensive neckless. Your system has
homeless people and people who aren't allowed to be treated in
hospitals and more prisoners than any country there ever was. Think
about free education up through being a doctor and no one paying rent
and you are braying like a jackass about people standing in line to
get goods for free. Almost unimaginable in the scummy USA. Land of the
Freaks, home of the slaves.

Sydney Diego
2008-08-25 10:23:49 EST
On Aug 24, 11:46 pm, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
> On 24 Aug, 13:13, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 24, 1:05 pm, skepticl1 <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > If you will put up with the Presidential Candidate lying about how
> > > many homes and mansions he owns you will put up with anything
>
> > Well, we put up with you claiming to be a Socialist.......
>
> > > In The Soviet Union there were NO millioniares because
> > > people were so equal. --Skeptic
>
> > Some were more equal than others though eh?
>
> > Especially the politburo members with their Black Sea beachfront
> > properties, no waiting in line for a loaf of bread and a bottle of
> > vodka for them !
>
> > "What grew during the Brezhnev years were bureaucracy and the size of
> > the Communist Party - with many Party members working in
> > bureaucracies. And growing too were the number of vacation residences,
> > pensions, perks and privileges for Party members. In the eyes of the
> > common Soviet citizen, corruption was growing alongside economic
> > stagnation"
>
> > go do your homework rube
>
> What you describe about the USSR can't begin to touch the inequality
> that is everyday practice in the United Snakes.

Well, I've never had to wait hours in line for a loaf of bread here.
And since you didn't live under the brutal communist regimes, frankly
you're not qualified to say.

Enjoying your capitalist lifestyle here though I see.


> A country which has
> presided over a world built on slums. Your guy even lies about how
> many mansions he owns.

He's not my guy. And you lie about being a socialist while living high
on the capitalist hog.



Skepticl1
2008-08-25 12:20:17 EST
On 25 Aug, 07:23, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
> On Aug 24, 11:46�pm, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 24 Aug, 13:13, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 24, 1:05 pm, skepticl1 <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > If you will put up with the Presidential Candidate lying about how
> > > > many homes and mansions he owns you will put up with anything
>
> > > Well, we put up with you claiming to be a Socialist.......
>
> > > > In The Soviet Union there were NO millioniares because
> > > > people were so equal. --Skeptic
>
> > > Some were more equal than others though eh?
>
> > > Especially the politburo members with their Black Sea beachfront
> > > properties, no waiting in line for a loaf of bread and a bottle of
> > > vodka for them !
>
> > > "What grew during the Brezhnev years were bureaucracy and the size of
> > > the Communist Party - with many Party members working in
> > > bureaucracies. And growing too were the number of vacation residences,
> > > pensions, perks and privileges for Party members. In the eyes of the
> > > common Soviet citizen, corruption was growing alongside economic
> > > stagnation"
>
> > > go do your homework rube
>
> > What you describe about the USSR can't begin to touch the inequality
> > that is everyday practice in the United Snakes.
>
> Well, I've never had to wait hours in line for a loaf of bread here.
> And since you didn't live under the brutal communist regimes, frankly
> you're not qualified to say.
>
> Enjoying your capitalist lifestyle here though I see.
>
> > A country which has
> > presided over a world built on slums. Your guy even lies about how
> > many mansions he owns.
>
> He's not my guy. And you lie about being a socialist while living high
> on the capitalist hog.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You don't have to wait for a loaf of bread because you are so rich and
spoiled, but you do have to step over a homeless person, or watch the
pigs taser a Mexican immigrant in a gestapo raid to get to your trendy
organic food store (which is anti-union I bet). I traveled to East
Germany when it was under goulash Soviet rule in the 1980s and I
delivered medical supplies to the Sandinistas during their revolution
in Nicaragua.

Sydney Diego
2008-08-25 12:39:48 EST
On Aug 25, 9:20 am, skepticl1 <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
> On 25 Aug, 07:23, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 24, 11:46 pm, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 24 Aug, 13:13, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 24, 1:05 pm, skepticl1 <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > If you will put up with the Presidential Candidate lying about how
> > > > > many homes and mansions he owns you will put up with anything
>
> > > > Well, we put up with you claiming to be a Socialist.......
>
> > > > > In The Soviet Union there were NO millioniares because
> > > > > people were so equal. --Skeptic
>
> > > > Some were more equal than others though eh?
>
> > > > Especially the politburo members with their Black Sea beachfront
> > > > properties, no waiting in line for a loaf of bread and a bottle of
> > > > vodka for them !
>
> > > > "What grew during the Brezhnev years were bureaucracy and the size of
> > > > the Communist Party - with many Party members working in
> > > > bureaucracies. And growing too were the number of vacation residences,
> > > > pensions, perks and privileges for Party members. In the eyes of the
> > > > common Soviet citizen, corruption was growing alongside economic
> > > > stagnation"
>
> > > > go do your homework rube
>
> > > What you describe about the USSR can't begin to touch the inequality
> > > that is everyday practice in the United Snakes.
>
> > Well, I've never had to wait hours in line for a loaf of bread here.
> > And since you didn't live under the brutal communist regimes, frankly
> > you're not qualified to say.
>
> > Enjoying your capitalist lifestyle here though I see.
>
> > > A country which has
> > > presided over a world built on slums. Your guy even lies about how
> > > many mansions he owns.
>
> > He's not my guy. And you lie about being a socialist while living high
> > on the capitalist hog.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You don't have to wait for a loaf of bread because you are so rich and
> spoiled, but you do have to step over a homeless person, or watch the
> pigs taser a Mexican immigrant in a gestapo raid to get to your trendy
> organic food store (which is anti-union I bet).

Well, the FACTS are I tend to shop at Albertsons (don't know or care
if it's unionized), I don't step over any homeless people and I have
never seen any Police vs. Illegal immigrant incident you describe.

My next door neighbor however is a 1st generation LEGAL immigrant and
he's a hell of a lot more anti-ILLEGAL immigration than I am.

> I traveled to East
> Germany when it was under goulash Soviet rule in the 1980s

Were they forcing everyone to eat Hungarian Beef Stews ?

>and I
> delivered medical supplies to the Sandinistas during their revolution
> in Nicaragua.- Hide quoted text -

And now you live the Capitalist lifestyle to the hilt and pretend
you're a Socialist.

Not buyin' it Billy-Boy, you love it here or you'd have left by now.



Skepticl1
2008-08-25 13:08:01 EST
On 25 Aug, 09:39, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
> On Aug 25, 9:20 am, skepticl1 <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 25 Aug, 07:23, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 24, 11:46 pm, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 24 Aug, 13:13, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Aug 24, 1:05 pm, skepticl1 <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > If you will put up with the Presidential Candidate lying about how
> > > > > > many homes and mansions he owns you will put up with anything
>
> > > > > Well, we put up with you claiming to be a Socialist.......
>
> > > > > > In The Soviet Union there were NO millioniares because
> > > > > > people were so equal. --Skeptic
>
> > > > > Some were more equal than others though eh?
>
> > > > > Especially the politburo members with their Black Sea beachfront
> > > > > properties, no waiting in line for a loaf of bread and a bottle of
> > > > > vodka for them !
>
> > > > > "What grew during the Brezhnev years were bureaucracy and the size of
> > > > > the Communist Party - with many Party members working in
> > > > > bureaucracies. And growing too were the number of vacation residences,
> > > > > pensions, perks and privileges for Party members. In the eyes of the
> > > > > common Soviet citizen, corruption was growing alongside economic
> > > > > stagnation"
>
> > > > > go do your homework rube
>
> > > > What you describe about the USSR can't begin to touch the inequality
> > > > that is everyday practice in the United Snakes.
>
> > > Well, I've never had to wait hours in line for a loaf of bread here.
> > > And since you didn't live under the brutal communist regimes, frankly
> > > you're not qualified to say.
>
> > > Enjoying your capitalist lifestyle here though I see.
>
> > > > A country which has
> > > > presided over a world built on slums. Your guy even lies about how
> > > > many mansions he owns.
>
> > > He's not my guy. And you lie about being a socialist while living high
> > > on the capitalist hog.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > You don't have to wait for a loaf of bread because you are so rich and
> > spoiled, but you do have to step over a homeless person, or watch the
> > pigs taser a Mexican immigrant in a gestapo raid to get to your trendy
> > organic food store (which is anti-union I bet).
>
> Well, the FACTS are I tend to shop at Albertsons (don't know or care
> if it's unionized), I don't step over any homeless people and I have
> never seen any Police vs. Illegal immigrant incident you describe.
>
> My next door neighbor however is a 1st generation LEGAL immigrant and
> he's a hell of a lot more anti-ILLEGAL immigration than I am.

Skeptic Responds:

So your immigrant neighbor who hates new immigrants is an anti-human
asshole too?

>
> > I traveled to East
> > Germany when it was under goulash Soviet rule in the 1980s
>
> Were they forcing everyone to eat Hungarian Beef Stews ?
>
> >and I
> > delivered medical supplies to the Sandinistas during their revolution
> > in Nicaragua.- Hide quoted text -
>
> And now you live the Capitalist lifestyle to the hilt and pretend
> you're a Socialist.
>
> Not buyin' it Billy-Boy, you love it here or you'd have left by now.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I live in a very upscale neighborhood in a part of town which has the
highest popsicle index imaginable (how safe it is to send your kid
down to the local store to buy a popsicle):

Heritage Homes of Petaluma home page
Our volunteers work to protect and restore Petaluma's priceless
architectural heritage. ... � copyright 2008 Heritage Homes of
Petaluma ...
www.heritagepetaluma.com - Cached
Heritage Homes of Petaluma Mission Statement page
... rich architectural heritage would be preserved for future
generations to enjoy. ... With Heritage Homes' recent establishment of
Petaluma's first "Revolving ...
www.heritagepetaluma.com/about/mission_statement.html - Cached

But even in a neighborhood filled with mansions I've seen the police
jack up immigrants for selling oranges on the corner. When I go a
nearby restaurant there are homeless people living in the bushes who
last night came into the restaurant to threaten me with a throat
cutting gesture because I touched his 'brother's' wheelchair outside.
Black people are afraid to drive in Sonoma County (especially
Petaluma) because the Police have murdered more Black and Immigrant
people than the number of people murdered by Police in New York City,
with it's millions and millions of inhabitants.

It's like the great depression, but you are too greedy, spoiled and
bigoted to care or even know about the people in your neighborhood.
And NZD's Pacific Islander Neighbor's don't talk to him either. Wonder
why?

Sydney Diego
2008-08-25 13:16:56 EST
On Aug 25, 10:08 am, skepticl1 <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
> On 25 Aug, 09:39, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
>

>
> > My next door neighbor however is a 1st generation LEGAL immigrant and
> > he's a hell of a lot more anti-ILLEGAL immigration than I am.
>
> Skeptic Responds:
>
> So your immigrant neighbor who hates new immigrants is an anti-human
> asshole
>

No, he's pro-obeying the law and treating everyone who wants to come
to this country fairly and by the same rules. Immigrate, but do it
legally.


> > >and I
> > > delivered medical supplies to the Sandinistas during their revolution
> > > in Nicaragua.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > And now you live the Capitalist lifestyle to the hilt and pretend
> > you're a Socialist.
>
> > Not buyin' it Billy-Boy, you love it here or you'd have left by now.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I live in a very upscale neighborhood in a part of town which has the
> highest popsicle index imaginable (how safe it is to send your kid
> down to the local store to buy a popsicle):
>

I know EXACTLY where you live Billy, it's public knowledge.

You KNOW you couldn't lead the same lifestyle in a commie-shithole
country, so you fake your socialist leanings for who knows whatever
bizarro reason, but deep down you're more of a Capitalist than most of
us. And you love it.


> And NZD's Pacific Islander Neighbor's don't talk to him either. Wonder
> why?-

Maybe they're too busy talking to you on your Capitalism-purchased
vacations there ?
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