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Leonardo Been
2008-12-07 01:57:49 EST
Evil "critics" of 'Scientology' Fight for Evil BELIEFS, versus the
Rational Truth

7 December 2008
{note 20081207}

'

Thus Evil "critics" of 'Scientology' are PREVENTING the handling of
'Scientology,' and of the demon *(1) l. ron hubbard.

'

How do you recognize an Evil "critic" of 'Scientology' most easily?

He or she refuses in any way to promote my

- by very far the most intelligent, the most caring, the most
expert and most useful and most effective -

research and understanding of 'Scientology' and of l. ron hubbard.

'

These Evil "critics" were already described in HRI 'The Mafia Code
Against Mankind,' *(2) by the way:

They refuse to talk about and squash any actual data about Life
itself, and so they very actively PREVENT any true enough viewpoint
on 'Scientology' and on l. ron hubbard, in order to handle that.

Ex-Scientologists are drawn into this, are used by them, to
promote their EVIL BELIEFS. (see enclosed {HRI 20080918-V1.5} )


'

By the way, one of the many MASKING Energies, that the demon
l. ron hubbard *(1) uses, is his 'The Way To Happiness' booklet
"for the public:"

As I mentioned before, ALL COMMUNICATIONS of a
Criminal Mind are an attack on you, so also his
'The Way To Happiness' booklet, with simple,
harmless 'rules for life,'

that are however SOLELY INTENDED TO MASK his true
nature and his true intentions and his true
activities: of dominating the souls of people
forever and to suck them dry of their Life Energy,
and make them spread his Poisonous Life Energy.

'

It is a MASK to blind the public, to seeing the repulsive soul,

the actual, extremely repulsive personality and utterly
malicious, deceptive nature and most nauseating spiritual
activities of l. ron hubbard,

who - according to the Evil "critics" of 'Scientology' -
"does not exist," and whose Energies "do not exist."

So these "critics" - being themselves somewhat like
l. ron hubbard - have killed and prevented any very
necessary exchange of data and strategy,

to actually understand and thus be able to
handle l. ron hubbard and his life time's work
of Evil, 'Scientology,'

not unlike some Indian guru, to invent a "much
better" and self-perpetuating system of Evil

(of getting him provided with the Life
Energy of his "students") in order to

to deceive and forever capture people to be
his dumb followers and spiritual "robots,"

made and kept very forcefully into
seemingly thinking but unquestioning
'Scientologists,'

who are strongly hypnotized - and otherwise
controlled - to give their Life Energy
to the - according to the Evil "critics" the
"non-existing" - soul of l. ron hubbard, and to his
staff,

and they are perpetually hypnotized by him and his
staff, to receive the Altered, Poisoned Energy*
of l. ron hubbard, on a grand scale, and to spread
and to perpetuate it.

'

*(1) 'Exorcism, Why and How to Throw Out Demonic Energies, e.g. of
l. ron hubbard'
{HRI 20081117-V4.1}
(17 November 2008 - Version 4.1 on 3 Dec 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/msg/fc6c1026ca9d371f

*(2) 'Koos Nolst Trenite: 'The Mafia Code Against Mankind'
V2.1.txt.nfo'
(Introduction to 'The Mafia Code Against Mankind'
{HRI 20021018-V2.1} )
(12 Aug 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/0c0ac2bef1c56fc4

'

'

_______________
I wrote earlier (enclosure):

Evil Creatures Fight for Evil BELIEFS, versus the Rational Truth

18 Sept 2008
{HRI 20080918-V1.5}

(Version 1.5
on 26 Oct 2008)

(not suitable for
sociopaths)

'

I hope you get that now: THEY have beliefs, WE have the rational
truth.

THEY are Criminal Minds, and Criminal Minds have everything in
reverse, so

THEY claim the opposite, that "they have the rational and
scientific truth," and that "we have BELIEFS,"

while THEY have - INTENTIONALLY and maliciously - BELIEFS,
and WE have rational and scientific truth,

which you can find in Fine Particle Physics, and in
the Human Rights Issues.

'

'

In the present context, Evil Creatures INTENTIONALLY, and against all
rationality and proof, fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF,

that "people are bodies and not souls,"

the rational truth being, that people are souls, and not bodies,
nor a brain;

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF,

that "perception is not done spiritually," but "consists of the
stimulation of the body's sense-organs, including the brain,"

the rational truth being, that all perception is entirely
spiritual (done with Life Energy Particles) and IN ADDITION TO
THAT, may be, or may not be, conducted via the body's sense
organs; (***)

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF,

that people's memory "is engraved on the molecules of the brain," and
that "(also) therefore, people, being brains, have not lived before
as souls,"

the rational truth being, that the soul is intimately connected
to the brain, through Life Energy Particles, and that memory is
stored in Life Energy Particles, in the soul, and that, with
Life Energy Particles, you connect to and thus become aware of
content;

most hilarious - or truly sad, should "incurable"
'diseases' like Alzheimer have beset you - is,

how Evil Creatures try to "explain" remissions or times of
sudden recovery of the ability to remember, etc. or how
they "explain" the sudden loss of memory;

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF, that

"all perception and all memory is a delusion," or must be labeled
so if it is unwanted by Evil Creatures, and if "politely" or
"more convincingly" so, then as "your own reality" or "your own
truth,"

for the obvious reason of them not wanting witnesses to be
believed, and

- while truth is simply what happened and is thus
absolute, as any sane person knows -

it is labeled by them as "being your delusion," for the
reason of

them not wanting to be recognized and made responsible for the
Evil they inflicted on others, on you, especially in the past
of earlier lives:

"Nobody did it," or, they mean the same, by saying

"God inflicted it," or, they mean the same, that "they,
Criminal Minds, did not do it," and they say

"it is Karma," by which they mean, that "they, Criminal
Minds, did not do it," and they say instead, that

"suffering is necessary, and ultimately caused by
yourself."

Really... so when you hear those things, you know you are
listening to a Criminal Mind or to a follower of a Criminal
Mind.

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous and medieval)
BELIEF, that "human Life only existed and only exists, on planet
Earth," and "existed not even on Mars,"

and in addition to that, the BELIEF, that "Einstein is
Intelligent," while they can not even DEFINE Intelligence

- see the HRI's for the definition of 'Intelligence' -

(shortest definition)

'ability to connect to data and to separate data,'

{definition} from {HRI 20080406-V4.6.2}

and "intelligence" amongst Evil Creatures - THEIR
"definition" of "Intelligence" - (Evil Intelligence) is
(who has the greatest)

'Ability to deceive others the longest and with the gravest
consequences' {definition}

(Einstein being 'their prophet' and Einstein failing
to use the of course major and first part of
Intelligence:

connecting to relevant and applicable, known data,

which Einstein COMPLETELY omitted to do and, as you
will be able to admit, that he omitted INTENTIONALLY
and thus maliciously (*))

contrasting wholly with the simple and very rational truth, being,
that there have been and are and will be infinite occasions of life
on an unimaginably vast amount of other planets, existing

- including heaven-like societies and also societies like hell -

not to mention other spiritual life. (**)

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous and medieval)
BELIEF, that "Life after death is either paradisal, infernal, or
nihil," and "did not exist before their present birth," (**)

the rational truth being, that all people, being souls, have
lived before with or without own body and life, and will live
again very many life times, without or with an own body and
life;

Etcetera.

'

'

So I hope you get that now.

I repeat:

THEY have beliefs, WE have the rational truth.

THEY are Criminal Minds - Criminal Minds have everything in
reverse - and so THEY claim "to have the rational and scientific
truth" while having the very opposite,

and they claim, that the simple and rational truth, is "merely
beliefs."

But it is THEY, while they are countering and hiding the fact,
that they basically DO know the truth very well

- which is why they are fighting it so hard, and why they
know so very well WHAT and whom to fight -

THEY, INTENTIONALLY and maliciously, have BELIEFS, and

WE have (the) rational and scientific truth, which you can find back
in 'Fine Particle Physics,' and in the 'Human Rights Issues.'

'

Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity'
human rights philosopher and poet

'Solomon's wisdom was greater
than the wisdom of
all the men of the East,
and greater
than all the wisdom of Egypt.'

1 Kings 4:30

_______________
I wrote earlier:

You can not even DEFINE 'addiction,' because you lack

"Fine Particle Physics" (*)(***)

which gives you the definitions of Awareness and of
Perception.

'

_________
Footnotes:

(*) Fine Particle Physics - found for instance at
http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics

(**) 'Defining God correctly - and Heaven, and Hell - What is
Monotheism' (DGC)
{HRI 20080406-V4.7}
(6 April 2008 - Version 4.7 on 24 Oct 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/e31acc265dd891ae


(***) (taken from {HRI 20040617-V3.8})

------ (How You Are Connected To Your Body)

You can be influenced by the Life Energies of your
body - to a greater or lesser extent -

AND you can influence the Life Energies of your body
- to a greater or lesser extent.

I will say that in more easy terms for you:

You can influence your body well, very well,
extraordinarily well, or not so well, or quite
badly.

And your body can influence you greatly or even
dominantly,

with all its perceptions and anything
your body is made to feel, good or bad,
almost determining your thinking and
activities, and

you can let all your communications and
Energies come and go via or through your
body's Energy structures,

or you can do things, make your perceptions and
observations and communications more directly
from person to person or from soul to soul,

which I know is the way almost anybody
highly likes to be addressed, certainly
by me, addressing people as they are -
they ARE souls. *(10)

'

And you can even train yourself, to have
certain Energies that come in via or from
your body,

for instance Pain Energies, quite
obviously, but also Unconsciousness
Energies (such as those Energies that
make or made you fall asleep) and
Repulsive Energies (ugly feelings,
itching and the like), to have these

not connect into your soul, but to handle these
so well, that you can keep these at bay,

so that these Poisoning Energies will
not cripple your feelings, and will not
stop your being alive, and

so that these Poisoning Energies will
not destroy your ability to detect the
source and nature of those who create and
project such Energies,

and you can train yourself, to more easily
keep these sources - those who project
Poisoned Energies - at bay, in order to look
at these individuals, to understand them and
their intentions,

so as to more quickly nullify these Poisoned
(and Poisonous) Life Energies.

'

Around the time of birth, when you are born or
slightly earlier already, you connect your Life
Energy into the brain, into the eyes, ears, nose,
skin, internal organs etcetera,

and then, usually rather strongly when these
have become fully grown and functional,

and thus can and do produce certain Life
Energies or feelings (Life Energies
contain(ing) feelings),

also into the genitals of the body,

feelings from the body's genitals to you,
that you can, however, also produce
yourself (you can create the Energies)
and put these into those organs, and

you get normally a combination of these
Energies (from your body, and from
yourself, your soul creating it), and
then of course the same applies to a
partner, and to creating those feelings
in each other's body too.

And again, Criminal Minds will try
to interfere quite heavily and in
various ways,

by projecting Poisonous and

deceptive Energies,

into those very natural processes.

'

And you connect at the same time also to (and use)
the various Life Energy structures that exist around
the body and keep the body alive, living, and that
make interactions via the body,

Life Energy Particle Fields connecting to the
body - with structures made out of Life Energy
Particles - and some prominent structures are

(commonly called wheels, alive, moving,
turning Life Energy Particle structures -
in the Sanskrit language, wheels are
'chakras')

geared to receive from others and from the
environment - as well as to emanate to others
and to the environment - particular types of
Life Energy.

'

Life Energy is used to interact
with life:

All aspects and activities
of life consist of actions
with Life Energy,

and matter itself - from the
smallest atoms to the biggest
planets and suns - is made
out of Life Energy, too.

'

The martial arts are using a particular
type of Life Energy Particles that exert
physical force, and they call these Chi
or Qi or Ki. (The Chinese pronounce it
'Tsyee.')

The Eastern healing arts concentrate on
another type of Life Energy Particles,
that keep the body functioning and alive,
and that form various structures or
strings of Life Energy Particles for that
purpose in, on and around the body, and
they use in India the term Prana in
particular for those Energy Particles,

and some also use that same word,
Prana, to denote the type of Life
Energy that connects you to Life,
that produces connection and thus
feeling or awareness, and not only
of the body.

'

You can in various ways decide and practice to bring
about less connection of your Life Energies to the
body, or on the other hand, you can decide and
practice to make more connection of your Life Energy
to the body.

So you get the various practices that try to
make you do that. I mentioned Chi or Qi, Ki,
which is a word that you find in many
practices, and then there is Yoga, and
various such philosophies like Taoism, Bon Po,
Sufism, Tantra, etc., and you find what of it
has not been rejected but assimilated, in
some (highly varying) brands of Buddhism, Zen,
etcetera.

In Christianity and Islam, these things are
often designated with the term miracles - as in
'miracle healing' or 'faith healing.'

When you have been made very stupid by
school education or by medical education
(with the criminal neglect of knowledge,
that they are hiding these things from
you),

then this knowledge can be sold to
you as "the secret of the single
and only source of success in all
areas of life."

As said, all aspects and all
activities of life consist
of actions with Life Energy.

And some people charge you merely
twenty dollars for telling you,
that Life Energy exists,

you use it all the time
abundantly, so it is more or
less like

'telling a sailor that
water exists.'

Others charge you, in the course
of half a life time, a million
dollars for only the promise to
tell you,

and still telling you not -
also at the end not - that
it exists, let alone telling
you, that

it is known since eternity, and known to any
person with even the slightest education - or
with no education at all, but - simply with a
feeling of life and of people.

'

But some severe Criminal Minds, they are
sophisticated Psychopaths,

like the famous Greek destroyer of
rationality and health, the one
called Hippocrates,

want it "known" and seen as "rational,"
that

"Life Energy does NOT exist."

Other equally undetected and equally
sophisticated Criminal Minds, working
for personal glory in order not to be
seen for what they are, (they are not
working for people, but for fame)

like Antoine Lavoisier and Benjamin
Franklin,

then introduced that denial - the very
denial of life itself - as "rationality"
into science, and even into politics,
*(5)

and so they made it up to this day
impossible 'to close the lid of
the "Box of Pandora" from which
they sprang:'

They made it impossible to
detect Criminal Minds and
what these do, impossible
to detect THEM...



------ (Your Life Energy Is Altered By Criminal Minds)

Always they screen and thus hide

most intense evil and extreme ugliness,
violence, betrayal, drugs, pain, and
unconsciousness,

and they screen and hide the memory you and others
have of their activities,

and your knowledge and recall of those
activities, is of course

most vital to recover till you know the truth,

vital to know the truth of, which is necessary to
have in order to achieve any rational use of the
mentioned Life Energies

- the very use that the many practices for Chi
(Qi, Ki), and Prana are trying to achieve!


So I hope you understand now, that you won't
get anywhere near such rational use,

until you begin studying Criminal Minds,
and until you can understand and detect
them.

And not only detecting Criminal Minds,
but also detecting the Destructive
Cowards who prevent their detection, and
who do the work for Criminal Minds:

I am sure you have seen or you have
experienced how Destructive Cowards
obey Criminal Minds

"in order to 'protect' themselves
from those Criminal Minds," and you
have seen

how these Destructive Cowards
"'predict' how the future will be
for others 'if they do not submit
to Criminal Minds,"

how these Destructive Cowards did
betray others into slavery and
delivered them to be consequently
destroyed by Criminal Minds, and

how these Destructive Cowards are
pretending, that that treachery is
the way "to protect themselves and
others from the wrath of Criminal
Minds."

'

Also those people - indeed many of them
Destructive Cowards - who do NOT want to look
at intense evil, have riddled spiritual
practices,

with very many false data - and they
INTENTIONALLY continue to riddle it,

while these subjects and these practices are
advertised as bettering your command of your
own Life Energy.

And many false ideas that are contained
in their philosophies and practices, were
- as you may understand now - invented
and placed deliberately, by Criminal
Minds.

'

What applies generally:

if you do NOT admit that Criminal Minds DO
exist, and

if you then do NOT go and acquire sufficient
understanding about their ways and methods, and
about the intentions that guide their actions,

you don't get anywhere,

much like building a castle on the beach
that is rinsed away by the next tide:

All your endless training and your deliberately
inflicting entirely unnecessary hardships on yourself
and on your body, and on others too, for many years,
or for many life times,

INSTEAD OF PRACTICING TO DETECT AND FACE
CRIMINAL MINDS,

only finds you (in a condition of having) developed
and trained endlessly to acquire the means,

the abilities and certainties acquired through
endless training,

that merely provide you with the illusion

which indeed is successfully
intended by Criminal Minds,

the false "awareness," that

"you can handle life now,"

WHILE YOU CANNOT EVEN PROTECT ONE BILLION
CHINESE FROM BEING CAVED IN AND DEGRADING
EACH OTHER AND ENSLAVING EACH OTHER, and then
murdering a few million Tibetans too,

WHILE THEY WERE HYPNOTIZED BY A CRIMINAL
MIND... BY MAO ZEDONG WITH HIS BOOK OF
LIES.

And they still try to do the same to some
twenty million Chinese off the coast of China,
who, I think, are getting along very well and
happily WITHOUT the "help" of some unnamed
Criminal Minds in "the motherland."

'

So what you DO achieve - each life time again -

by not detecting and by not understanding and
by not facing Criminal Minds, but

spending endless years with your practices "to
handle Life Energy" and your body,

- only for some fleeting moment, for a part of
each life time only, at best -

what you achieve, at best,

is that you make 'your life in the cave' more
pleasant, or in other words, you make your being
'caved in' slightly more pleasant,

as was pointed out to you already by Plato,
more than two thousand years ago.

________________________________
Quoted and slightly edited, from:

'About Aliens, Dimensions, Consciousness, Time, And Earth's Past
And Future'
{HRI 20040617-V3.8}
(17 June 2004 - Version 3.8 on 29 August 2004)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/518554a536e1bf6e

(10) 'Who Feels Bach Correctly - The Soul Of Music'
{HRI 20040704-V3.1}
(4 July 2004 - Version 3.1 on 12 June 2005)
http://groups.google.com/group/Koos-Nolst-Trenite/msg/59073fd311d18594

(nn) (More as applicable)
'

____________
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Leonardo Been
2008-12-07 03:24:15 EST
Evil "critics" of 'Scientology' Fight for Evil BELIEFS, versus the
Rational Truth

7 December 2008
{note 20081207-v2}

'

Thus Evil "critics" of 'Scientology' are PREVENTING the handling of
'Scientology,' and of the demon *(1) l. ron hubbard.

'

How do you recognize an Evil "critic" of 'Scientology' most easily?

He or she refuses in any way to promote my

- by very far the most intelligent, the most caring, the most
expert and most useful and most effective -

research and understanding of 'Scientology' and of l. ron hubbard.

'

These Evil "critics" were already described in HRI 'The Mafia Code
Against Mankind,' *(2) by the way:

They refuse to talk about, and they squash any actual data about Life
itself,

and so they very actively PREVENT any true enough viewpoint
on 'Scientology' and on l. ron hubbard, in order to handle
these.

Ex-Scientologists are drawn into this, are used by them, to
promote their EVIL BELIEFS. (see enclosed {HRI 20080918-V1.5} )


'

'

By the way, one of the many MASKING Energies, that the demon
l. ron hubbard *(1) uses, is his 'The Way To Happiness' booklet
"for the public:"

As I mentioned before, ALL COMMUNICATIONS of a
Criminal Mind are an attack on you, so also his
'The Way To Happiness' booklet, with simple,
harmless 'rules for life.'

These are however SOLELY INTENDED TO MASK his true nature
and his true intentions and his true activities:

of dominating the souls of people forever, and

to suck them and anyone dry of their Life Energy,
and

to make them spread his Poisonous Life Energy
everywhere.

'

ALSO THAT action, the spreading of simple rules of life, but
with his name on it and by his staff, is a MASK to blind the
public to seeing the repulsive soul, to seeing

the actual, extremely repulsive personality and utterly
malicious, deceptive nature and most nauseating spiritual
activities, of l. ron hubbard,

who - according to the Evil "critics" of 'Scientology' -
"does not exist," and whose Energies "do not exist."

'

'

So these "critics" - being themselves somewhat like
l. ron hubbard - have PERSISTENTLY killed and have
prevented any very necessary exchange of data and
strategy,

to actually understand, and thus be able to
handle l. ron hubbard and his life time's work
of Evil, 'Scientology,'

his diligent work of insidious malice,
not unlike some guru in India, to invent
a "much better" and self-perpetuating
system of Evil

(of getting him provided with the Life
Energy of his "students") in order to

to deceive and forever capture people to be
his dumb followers and his spiritual "robots,"

made and kept very forcefully into
seemingly thinking but unquestioning
'Scientologists,'

who are strongly hypnotized - and otherwise
controlled to give their Life Energy to the

- according to the Evil "critics" the
"non-existing" -

soul of l. ron hubbard, and to his staff,

and they are continuously and forcefully hypnotized
by the soul of l. ron hubbard and by his staff, to
receive his Altered, Poisoned Energy,* on a grand
scale, and

to spread and to perpetuate his Evil, and to
infiltrate the (American) society:

A common but illegal prank this year by a boy named
Guzner,

against the organized and persistent Evil of
'Scientology,'

(the boy's PRANK to make the Evil of 'Scientology'
known (!))
"was tracked down by the US Secret Service, by the
FBI, by the Los Angeles Police Department and by the
Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office.
The US Attorney's Office in Los Angeles is prosecu-
ting the case." *(3)

These are however NOT prosecuting 'Scientology' for
its persistent fraud and false practices:

FRAUD BY MALICIOUSLY, INTENTIONALLY LABELING FALSELY
ALMOST ALL OF THEIR ACTIVITIES, to hide from the
very stupid or very cowardly, the false practice of
medicine, grand scale tax evasion, organized slave
labor, and most insidious acts against local
statutes, against even the most basic Human Rights,
against Religious Freedom, not to mention their
organized fraud with visas and residence permits,
perjury, etc., etc..

and their generally being a Criminal and financial
drain and burden on the society.

'

Now you can't leave the handling of that, to some Evil "critics" of
'Scientology,' you see?

'

*(1) 'Exorcism, Why and How to Throw Out Demonic Energies, e.g. of
l. ron hubbard'
{HRI 20081117-V4.1}
(17 November 2008 - Version 4.1 on 3 Dec 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/msg/fc6c1026ca9d371f

*(2) 'Koos Nolst Trenite: 'The Mafia Code Against Mankind'
V2.1.txt.nfo'
(Introduction to 'The Mafia Code Against Mankind'
{HRI 20021018-V2.1} )
(12 Aug 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/0c0ac2bef1c56fc4

*(3) 'US teen admits to 'Anonymous' DDoS attack on Scientology -
Up to 10 years in the clink'
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/17/scientology_ddos_guilty_plea/

'

'

_______________
I wrote earlier (enclosure):

Evil Creatures Fight for Evil BELIEFS, versus the Rational Truth

18 Sept 2008
{HRI 20080918-V1.5}

(Version 1.5
on 26 Oct 2008)

(not suitable for
sociopaths)

'

I hope you get that now: THEY have beliefs, WE have the rational
truth.

THEY are Criminal Minds, and Criminal Minds have everything in
reverse, so

THEY claim the opposite, that "they have the rational and
scientific truth," and that "we have BELIEFS,"

while THEY have - INTENTIONALLY and maliciously - BELIEFS,
and WE have rational and scientific truth,

which you can find in Fine Particle Physics, and in
the Human Rights Issues.

'

'

In the present context, Evil Creatures INTENTIONALLY, and against all
rationality and proof, fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF,

that "people are bodies and not souls,"

the rational truth being, that people are souls, and not bodies,
nor a brain;

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF,

that "perception is not done spiritually," but "consists of the
stimulation of the body's sense-organs, including the brain,"

the rational truth being, that all perception is entirely
spiritual (done with Life Energy Particles) and IN ADDITION TO
THAT, may be, or may not be, conducted via the body's sense
organs; (***)

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF,

that people's memory "is engraved on the molecules of the brain," and
that "(also) therefore, people, being brains, have not lived before
as souls,"

the rational truth being, that the soul is intimately connected
to the brain, through Life Energy Particles, and that memory is
stored in Life Energy Particles, in the soul, and that, with
Life Energy Particles, you connect to and thus become aware of
content;

most hilarious - or truly sad, should "incurable"
'diseases' like Alzheimer have beset you - is,

how Evil Creatures try to "explain" remissions or times of
sudden recovery of the ability to remember, etc. or how
they "explain" the sudden loss of memory;

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF, that

"all perception and all memory is a delusion," or must be labeled
so if it is unwanted by Evil Creatures, and if "politely" or
"more convincingly" so, then as "your own reality" or "your own
truth,"

for the obvious reason of them not wanting witnesses to be
believed, and

- while truth is simply what happened and is thus
absolute, as any sane person knows -

it is labeled by them as "being your delusion," for the
reason of

them not wanting to be recognized and made responsible for the
Evil they inflicted on others, on you, especially in the past
of earlier lives:

"Nobody did it," or, they mean the same, by saying

"God inflicted it," or, they mean the same, that "they,
Criminal Minds, did not do it," and they say

"it is Karma," by which they mean, that "they, Criminal
Minds, did not do it," and they say instead, that

"suffering is necessary, and ultimately caused by
yourself."

Really... so when you hear those things, you know you are
listening to a Criminal Mind or to a follower of a Criminal
Mind.

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous and medieval)
BELIEF, that "human Life only existed and only exists, on planet
Earth," and "existed not even on Mars,"

and in addition to that, the BELIEF, that "Einstein is
Intelligent," while they can not even DEFINE Intelligence

- see the HRI's for the definition of 'Intelligence' -

(shortest definition)

'ability to connect to data and to separate data,'

{definition} from {HRI 20080406-V4.6.2}

and "intelligence" amongst Evil Creatures - THEIR
"definition" of "Intelligence" - (Evil Intelligence) is
(who has the greatest)

'Ability to deceive others the longest and with the gravest
consequences' {definition}

(Einstein being 'their prophet' and Einstein failing
to use the of course major and first part of
Intelligence:

connecting to relevant and applicable, known data,

which Einstein COMPLETELY omitted to do and, as you
will be able to admit, that he omitted INTENTIONALLY
and thus maliciously (*))

contrasting wholly with the simple and very rational truth, being,
that there have been and are and will be infinite occasions of life
on an unimaginably vast amount of other planets, existing

- including heaven-like societies and also societies like hell -

not to mention other spiritual life. (**)

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous and medieval)
BELIEF, that "Life after death is either paradisal, infernal, or
nihil," and "did not exist before their present birth," (**)

the rational truth being, that all people, being souls, have
lived before with or without own body and life, and will live
again very many life times, without or with an own body and
life;

Etcetera.

'

'

So I hope you get that now.

I repeat:

THEY have beliefs, WE have the rational truth.

THEY are Criminal Minds - Criminal Minds have everything in
reverse - and so THEY claim "to have the rational and scientific
truth" while having the very opposite,

and they claim, that the simple and rational truth, is "merely
beliefs."

But it is THEY, while they are countering and hiding the fact,
that they basically DO know the truth very well

- which is why they are fighting it so hard, and why they
know so very well WHAT and whom to fight -

THEY, INTENTIONALLY and maliciously, have BELIEFS, and

WE have (the) rational and scientific truth, which you can find back
in 'Fine Particle Physics,' and in the 'Human Rights Issues.'

'

Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity'
human rights philosopher and poet

'Solomon's wisdom was greater
than the wisdom of
all the men of the East,
and greater
than all the wisdom of Egypt.'

1 Kings 4:30

_______________
I wrote earlier:

You can not even DEFINE 'addiction,' because you lack

"Fine Particle Physics" (*)(***)

which gives you the definitions of Awareness and of
Perception.

'

_________
Footnotes:

(*) Fine Particle Physics - found for instance at
http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics

(**) 'Defining God correctly - and Heaven, and Hell - What is
Monotheism' (DGC)
{HRI 20080406-V4.7}
(6 April 2008 - Version 4.7 on 24 Oct 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/e31acc265dd891ae


(***) (taken from {HRI 20040617-V3.8})

------ (How You Are Connected To Your Body)

You can be influenced by the Life Energies of your
body - to a greater or lesser extent -

AND you can influence the Life Energies of your body
- to a greater or lesser extent.

I will say that in more easy terms for you:

You can influence your body well, very well,
extraordinarily well, or not so well, or quite
badly.

And your body can influence you greatly or even
dominantly,

with all its perceptions and anything
your body is made to feel, good or bad,
almost determining your thinking and
activities, and

you can let all your communications and
Energies come and go via or through your
body's Energy structures,

or you can do things, make your perceptions and
observations and communications more directly
from person to person or from soul to soul,

which I know is the way almost anybody
highly likes to be addressed, certainly
by me, addressing people as they are -
they ARE souls. *(10)

'

And you can even train yourself, to have
certain Energies that come in via or from
your body,

for instance Pain Energies, quite
obviously, but also Unconsciousness
Energies (such as those Energies that
make or made you fall asleep) and
Repulsive Energies (ugly feelings,
itching and the like), to have these

not connect into your soul, but to handle these
so well, that you can keep these at bay,

so that these Poisoning Energies will
not cripple your feelings, and will not
stop your being alive, and

so that these Poisoning Energies will
not destroy your ability to detect the
source and nature of those who create and
project such Energies,

and you can train yourself, to more easily
keep these sources - those who project
Poisoned Energies - at bay, in order to look
at these individuals, to understand them and
their intentions,

so as to more quickly nullify these Poisoned
(and Poisonous) Life Energies.

'

Around the time of birth, when you are born or
slightly earlier already, you connect your Life
Energy into the brain, into the eyes, ears, nose,
skin, internal organs etcetera,

and then, usually rather strongly when these
have become fully grown and functional,

and thus can and do produce certain Life
Energies or feelings (Life Energies
contain(ing) feelings),

also into the genitals of the body,

feelings from the body's genitals to you,
that you can, however, also produce
yourself (you can create the Energies)
and put these into those organs, and

you get normally a combination of these
Energies (from your body, and from
yourself, your soul creating it), and
then of course the same applies to a
partner, and to creating those feelings
in each other's body too.

And again, Criminal Minds will try
to interfere quite heavily and in
various ways,

by projecting Poisonous and

deceptive Energies,

into those very natural processes.

'

And you connect at the same time also to (and use)
the various Life Energy structures that exist around
the body and keep the body alive, living, and that
make interactions via the body,

Life Energy Particle Fields connecting to the
body - with structures made out of Life Energy
Particles - and some prominent structures are

(commonly called wheels, alive, moving,
turning Life Energy Particle structures -
in the Sanskrit language, wheels are
'chakras')

geared to receive from others and from the
environment - as well as to emanate to others
and to the environment - particular types of
Life Energy.

'

Life Energy is used to interact
with life:

All aspects and activities
of life consist of actions
with Life Energy,

and matter itself - from the
smallest atoms to the biggest
planets and suns - is made
out of Life Energy, too.

'

The martial arts are using a particular
type of Life Energy Particles that exert
physical force, and they call these Chi
or Qi or Ki. (The Chinese pronounce it
'Tsyee.')

The Eastern healing arts concentrate on
another type of Life Energy Particles,
that keep the body functioning and alive,
and that form various structures or
strings of Life Energy Particles for that
purpose in, on and around the body, and
they use in India the term Prana in
particular for those Energy Particles,

and some also use that same word,
Prana, to denote the type of Life
Energy that connects you to Life,
that produces connection and thus
feeling or awareness, and not only
of the body.

'

You can in various ways decide and practice to bring
about less connection of your Life Energies to the
body, or on the other hand, you can decide and
practice to make more connection of your Life Energy
to the body.

So you get the various practices that try to
make you do that. I mentioned Chi or Qi, Ki,
which is a word that you find in many
practices, and then there is Yoga, and
various such philosophies like Taoism, Bon Po,
Sufism, Tantra, etc., and you find what of it
has not been rejected but assimilated, in
some (highly varying) brands of Buddhism, Zen,
etcetera.

In Christianity and Islam, these things are
often designated with the term miracles - as in
'miracle healing' or 'faith healing.'

When you have been made very stupid by
school education or by medical education
(with the criminal neglect of knowledge,
that they are hiding these things from
you),

then this knowledge can be sold to
you as "the secret of the single
and only source of success in all
areas of life."

As said, all aspects and all
activities of life consist
of actions with Life Energy.

And some people charge you merely
twenty dollars for telling you,
that Life Energy exists,

you use it all the time
abundantly, so it is more or
less like

'telling a sailor that
water exists.'

Others charge you, in the course
of half a life time, a million
dollars for only the promise to
tell you,

and still telling you not -
also at the end not - that
it exists, let alone telling
you, that

it is known since eternity, and known to any
person with even the slightest education - or
with no education at all, but - simply with a
feeling of life and of people.

'

But some severe Criminal Minds, they are
sophisticated Psychopaths,

like the famous Greek destroyer of
rationality and health, the one
called Hippocrates,

want it "known" and seen as "rational,"
that

"Life Energy does NOT exist."

Other equally undetected and equally
sophisticated Criminal Minds, working
for personal glory in order not to be
seen for what they are, (they are not
working for people, but for fame)

like Antoine Lavoisier and Benjamin
Franklin,

then introduced that denial - the very
denial of life itself - as "rationality"
into science, and even into politics,
*(5)

and so they made it up to this day
impossible 'to close the lid of
the "Box of Pandora" from which
they sprang:'

They made it impossible to
detect Criminal Minds and
what these do, impossible
to detect THEM...



------ (Your Life Energy Is Altered By Criminal Minds)

Always they screen and thus hide

most intense evil and extreme ugliness,
violence, betrayal, drugs, pain, and
unconsciousness,

and they screen and hide the memory you and others
have of their activities,

and your knowledge and recall of those
activities, is of course

most vital to recover till you know the truth,

vital to know the truth of, which is necessary to
have in order to achieve any rational use of the
mentioned Life Energies

- the very use that the many practices for Chi
(Qi, Ki), and Prana are trying to achieve!


So I hope you understand now, that you won't
get anywhere near such rational use,

until you begin studying Criminal Minds,
and until you can understand and detect
them.

And not only detecting Criminal Minds,
but also detecting the Destructive
Cowards who prevent their detection, and
who do the work for Criminal Minds:

I am sure you have seen or you have
experienced how Destructive Cowards
obey Criminal Minds

"in order to 'protect' themselves
from those Criminal Minds," and you
have seen

how these Destructive Cowards
"'predict' how the future will be
for others 'if they do not submit
to Criminal Minds,"

how these Destructive Cowards did
betray others into slavery and
delivered them to be consequently
destroyed by Criminal Minds, and

how these Destructive Cowards are
pretending, that that treachery is
the way "to protect themselves and
others from the wrath of Criminal
Minds."

'

Also those people - indeed many of them
Destructive Cowards - who do NOT want to look
at intense evil, have riddled spiritual
practices,

with very many false data - and they
INTENTIONALLY continue to riddle it,

while these subjects and these practices are
advertised as bettering your command of your
own Life Energy.

And many false ideas that are contained
in their philosophies and practices, were
- as you may understand now - invented
and placed deliberately, by Criminal
Minds.

'

What applies generally:

if you do NOT admit that Criminal Minds DO
exist, and

if you then do NOT go and acquire sufficient
understanding about their ways and methods, and
about the intentions that guide their actions,

you don't get anywhere,

much like building a castle on the beach
that is rinsed away by the next tide:

All your endless training and your deliberately
inflicting entirely unnecessary hardships on yourself
and on your body, and on others too, for many years,
or for many life times,

INSTEAD OF PRACTICING TO DETECT AND FACE
CRIMINAL MINDS,

only finds you (in a condition of having) developed
and trained endlessly to acquire the means,

the abilities and certainties acquired through
endless training,

that merely provide you with the illusion

which indeed is successfully
intended by Criminal Minds,

the false "awareness," that

"you can handle life now,"

WHILE YOU CANNOT EVEN PROTECT ONE BILLION
CHINESE FROM BEING CAVED IN AND DEGRADING
EACH OTHER AND ENSLAVING EACH OTHER, and then
murdering a few million Tibetans too,

WHILE THEY WERE HYPNOTIZED BY A CRIMINAL
MIND... BY MAO ZEDONG WITH HIS BOOK OF
LIES.

And they still try to do the same to some
twenty million Chinese off the coast of China,
who, I think, are getting along very well and
happily WITHOUT the "help" of some unnamed
Criminal Minds in "the motherland."

'

So what you DO achieve - each life time again -

by not detecting and by not understanding and
by not facing Criminal Minds, but

spending endless years with your practices "to
handle Life Energy" and your body,

- only for some fleeting moment, for a part of
each life time only, at best -

what you achieve, at best,

is that you make 'your life in the cave' more
pleasant, or in other words, you make your being
'caved in' slightly more pleasant,

as was pointed out to you already by Plato,
more than two thousand years ago.

________________________________
Quoted and slightly edited, from:

'About Aliens, Dimensions, Consciousness, Time, And Earth's Past
And Future'
{HRI 20040617-V3.8}
(17 June 2004 - Version 3.8 on 29 August 2004)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/518554a536e1bf6e

(10) 'Who Feels Bach Correctly - The Soul Of Music'
{HRI 20040704-V3.1}
(4 July 2004 - Version 3.1 on 12 June 2005)
http://groups.google.com/group/Koos-Nolst-Trenite/msg/59073fd311d18594

(nn) (More as applicable)
'

____________
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RF
2008-12-07 15:44:45 EST
Leonardo Been wrote:
> Evil "critics" of 'Scientology' Fight for Evil BELIEFS, versus the
> Rational Truth

Brainless trash! Dump your garbage elsewhere your
evil demon.

Freedom Fighter
2008-12-07 20:58:12 EST
See what "RELIGIONS" (CULTS) do to peoples' minds?
(A cult being just a "religion" that hasn't been around long).

Adults no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy - but they still kill each other
over ancient myths and superstitions.

"We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion of love
and gentleness; how many bodies were burned alive with the genuinely kind
intention of saving souls from the eternal fire of hell." --- Karl Popper

The Freedom From Religion Foundation: http://ffrf.org/
The Secular Coalition for America: www.secular.org
Secular Student Alliance: www.secularstudents.org
www.infidels.org
www.humaniststudies.org
www.atheistalliance.org
www.americanhumanist.org



Frank
2008-12-07 21:17:56 EST

"Freedom Fighter" <liberty@once.net> wrote in message
news:Ua%_k.58966$_Y1.1990@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> See what "RELIGIONS" (CULTS) do to peoples' minds?
> (A cult being just a "religion" that hasn't been around long).
>
> Adults no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy - but they still kill each
> other over ancient myths and superstitions.
>

The educated do not do this, Christianity does not support that nor has
it ever.

> "We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion of
> love and gentleness; how many bodies were burned alive with the
> genuinely kind intention of saving souls from the eternal fire of
> hell." --- Karl Popper
>

It is pretty obvious that Karl Popper didn't know WTH he was talking
about.



Freedom Fighter
2008-12-07 21:39:07 EST
"Frank" <dawgface@ten.hut> wrote in message news:ghi03v$qme$1@aioe.org...
>
> "Freedom Fighter" <liberty@once.net> wrote in message
> news:Ua%_k.58966$_Y1.1990@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> See what "RELIGIONS" (CULTS) do to peoples' minds?
>> (A cult being just a "religion" that hasn't been around long).
>>
>> Adults no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy - but they still kill each
>> other over ancient myths and superstitions.

> The educated do not do this, Christianity does not support that nor has it
> ever.

Not even when they were torturing and burning "witches" to death?
A parochial "education" is not education, it is religious brainwashing.

>> "We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion of
>> love and gentleness; how many bodies were burned alive with the genuinely
>> kind intention of saving souls from the eternal fire of hell." --- Karl
>> Popper
>>
>
> It is pretty obvious that Karl Popper didn't know WTH he was talking
> about.

He knew exactly, as history well documents.



Frank
2008-12-07 22:39:43 EST

"Freedom Fighter" <liberty@once.net> wrote in message
news:fN%_k.181693$Mh5.109586@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> "Frank" <dawgface@ten.hut> wrote in message
> news:ghi03v$qme$1@aioe.org...
>>
>> "Freedom Fighter" <liberty@once.net> wrote in message
>> news:Ua%_k.58966$_Y1.1990@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> See what "RELIGIONS" (CULTS) do to peoples' minds?
>>> (A cult being just a "religion" that hasn't been around long).
>>>
>>> Adults no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy - but they still kill
>>> each other over ancient myths and superstitions.
>
>> The educated do not do this, Christianity does not support that nor
>> has it ever.
>
> Not even when they were torturing and burning "witches" to death?
> A parochial "education" is not education, it is religious
> brainwashing.
>

Christianity teaches to be at peace with all men as much as it is
possible. Killing, murdering, torturing and the like is not allowed.
Mankind has their own way of thinking but it does not necessarily line
up with Gods way. Burning witches to death is no different than what you
are doing in principle. A parochial training that uses brainwashing is
the product of man, not God. Children are to be taught in the ways of
God, but it is always their choice to believe or not. Obviously you were
not "brainwashed". :)

>>> "We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion
>>> of love and gentleness; how many bodies were burned alive with the
>>> genuinely kind intention of saving souls from the eternal fire of
>>> hell." --- Karl Popper
>>>
>>
>> It is pretty obvious that Karl Popper didn't know WTH he was talking
>> about.
>
> He knew exactly, as history well documents.

History does not document it. It only documents things that mankind did
with false assumptions. The Bible does not teach that. You have to
differentiate between the Truth and false truths of mankind. The only
organized religion that I know of that calls for killing others that
don't believe is Islam, Muslim or whatever you want to call it. Their
Koran teaches it and requires it.

I don't really expect you to see any difference since your eyes are
blinded to the truth, but irregardless that is the way that it is. Under
the old Covenant there were times that God ordered a nation destroyed,
but not without warning. However I realize that it is not the time
period you are discussing.



Plato Been
2008-12-08 04:24:59 EST
Demonic creatures etc. have NO PERMISSION to talk to me (rev 2.0.2)

7 December 2007

(Version 2.0.2
on 30 Oct 2008)

'

Demonic creatures have NO permission to talk to or speak with me,

unless specifically asked by me, and then only on the question
asked of them by me or by someone for me.


This has always been so, wherever and whenever I could recognize them.

This is how it is in the street, and it is not at all different
in the Usenet newsgroups.

'

'

You can think of these Demonic creatures as street bums,

as to how their soul is, and

as to how the Energies they emanate, are.

Some even claim, that (their and) any soul, and
(those and) any Energies, (also those THEY emanate)
DO NOT EXIST,

so that they are not recognized as the source
of Evil Energies,

nor recognized as Evil souls (that are obvious
from their past-lives).

'

Their only purpose is to destroy life,

and the only reason for their shouting to get a connect-
ion, is, to try and get (to steal) Energy from others,

as they are Energy-vampires too,

and it is not hard to imagine, what THEY would use that
Energy for.

'

'

Do these Hate Beauty, Love and Truth?

Certainly, they so do hate very intensely, very forcefully, with
tremendous rancor. (rancor: 'The deepest malignity or spite;
deep-seated enmity or malice; deep-rooted hatred.')

'

They abhor and are disgusted by genuine Beauty, Love and Truth,

which they may try to approach and "admire" IN ORDER TO
DESTROY IT and to obtain and pervert and subvert the
Energy of.

'

'

Me being fully and wholly their opposite, my communications are so
Strong in Beauty, so All-embracing in Love, and so Rich in Truth,

that these my communications (my Energies) do literally 'burn the
soul' of any Demonic creature, sociopath or mental street bum and
the like:

To such individuals, any communication of mine acts as
'Holy Water,' it burns their soul

- and they react accordingly... some sort of 'explode,'

others, feeling forced to have to feel and to face the
actuality of how people really are,

including feeling the existence and thus the
Energies of demons like l. ron hubbard, and of
his evil soul mates,

will go onto a 'killing spree,' a 'knife-stabbing' "fest"
for them,

TO RE-ESTABLISH THEIR LIES, THEIR FALSE FEELINGS,
AND TO 'DICTATORIALIZE' their lies and false
feelings onto others,

to eradicate and exterminate decent people, and

to kill those who emanate the Energy of pure, penetrating
Truth, of pure, penetrating Beauty, and of pure, and
equally penetrating Love.

'

Therefore - being KIND to them - they are ordered to filter out
of their perception, any communications

not meant for them, not written for them and not posted
or published for them,

that are written by me.

'

'

Koos Nolst Trenite is arguably by far the most Intelligent, by far the
most Beautiful and by far the most Caring philosopher known, and on
top of that the most Truthful and most trusted philosopher known on
Earth and beyond.

KNT hrp&p

_________
reference:

'l. ron hubbard is a 'demon' pretending to be "good" '
(21 April 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/msg/2c9e876e79b3e4c8

Copyright 2008 by KNT hrp&p
Copyright Conditions as usual ('learnware')


On Dec 7, 9:24 am, Leonardo Been <leonardo_been@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Evil "critics" of 'Scientology' Fight for Evil BELIEFS, versus the
> Rational Truth
>
> 7 December 2008
> {note 20081207-v2}
>
> '
>
> Thus Evil "critics" of 'Scientology' are PREVENTING the handling of
> 'Scientology,' and of the demon *(1) l. ron hubbard.
>
> '
>
> How do you recognize an Evil "critic" of 'Scientology' most easily?
>
> He or she refuses in any way to promote my
>
> - by very far the most intelligent, the most caring, the most
> expert and most useful and most effective -
>
> research and understanding of 'Scientology' and of l. ron hubbard.
>
> '
>
> These Evil "critics" were already described in HRI 'The Mafia Code
> Against Mankind,' *(2) by the way:
>
> They refuse to talk about, and they squash any actual data about Life
> itself,
>
> and so they very actively PREVENT any true enough viewpoint
> on 'Scientology' and on l. ron hubbard, in order to handle
> these.
>
> Ex-Scientologists are drawn into this, are used by them, to
> promote their EVIL BELIEFS. (see enclosed {HRI 20080918-V1.5} )
>
> '
>
> '
>
> By the way, one of the many MASKING Energies, that the demon
> l. ron hubbard *(1) uses, is his 'The Way To Happiness' booklet
> "for the public:"
>
> As I mentioned before, ALL COMMUNICATIONS of a
> Criminal Mind are an attack on you, so also his
> 'The Way To Happiness' booklet, with simple,
> harmless 'rules for life.'
>
> These are however SOLELY INTENDED TO MASK his true nature
> and his true intentions and his true activities:
>
> of dominating the souls of people forever, and
>
> to suck them and anyone dry of their Life Energy,
> and
>
> to make them spread his Poisonous Life Energy
> everywhere.
>
> '
>
> ALSO THAT action, the spreading of simple rules of life, but
> with his name on it and by his staff, is a MASK to blind the
> public to seeing the repulsive soul, to seeing
>
> the actual, extremely repulsive personality and utterly
> malicious, deceptive nature and most nauseating spiritual
> activities, of l. ron hubbard,
>
> who - according to the Evil "critics" of 'Scientology' -
> "does not exist," and whose Energies "do not exist."
>
> '
>
> '
>
> So these "critics" - being themselves somewhat like
> l. ron hubbard - have PERSISTENTLY killed and have
> prevented any very necessary exchange of data and
> strategy,
>
> to actually understand, and thus be able to
> handle l. ron hubbard and his life time's work
> of Evil, 'Scientology,'
>
> his diligent work of insidious malice,
> not unlike some guru in India, to invent
> a "much better" and self-perpetuating
> system of Evil
>
> (of getting him provided with the Life
> Energy of his "students") in order to
>
> to deceive and forever capture people to be
> his dumb followers and his spiritual "robots,"
>
> made and kept very forcefully into
> seemingly thinking but unquestioning
> 'Scientologists,'
>
> who are strongly hypnotized - and otherwise
> controlled to give their Life Energy to the
>
> - according to the Evil "critics" the
> "non-existing" -
>
> soul of l. ron hubbard, and to his staff,
>
> and they are continuously and forcefully hypnotized
> by the soul of l. ron hubbard and by his staff, to
> receive his Altered, Poisoned Energy,* on a grand
> scale, and
>
> to spread and to perpetuate his Evil, and to
> infiltrate the (American) society:
>
> A common but illegal prank this year by a boy named
> Guzner,
>
> against the organized and persistent Evil of
> 'Scientology,'
>
> (the boy's PRANK to make the Evil of 'Scientology'
> known (!))
> "was tracked down by the US Secret Service, by the
> FBI, by the Los Angeles Police Department and by the
> Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office.
> The US Attorney's Office in Los Angeles is prosecu-
> ting the case." *(3)
>
> These are however NOT prosecuting 'Scientology' for
> its persistent fraud and false practices:
>
> FRAUD BY MALICIOUSLY, INTENTIONALLY LABELING FALSELY
> ALMOST ALL OF THEIR ACTIVITIES, to hide from the
> very stupid or very cowardly, the false practice of
> medicine, grand scale tax evasion, organized slave
> labor, and most insidious acts against local
> statutes, against even the most basic Human Rights,
> against Religious Freedom, not to mention their
> organized fraud with visas and residence permits,
> perjury, etc., etc..
>
> and their generally being a Criminal and financial
> drain and burden on the society.
>
> '
>
> Now you can't leave the handling of that, to some Evil "critics" of
> 'Scientology,' you see?
>
> '
>
> *(1) 'Exorcism, Why and How to Throw Out Demonic Energies, e.g. of
> l. ron hubbard'
> {HRI 20081117-V4.1}
> (17 November 2008 - Version 4.1 on 3 Dec 2008)http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/msg/fc6c1026ca9d371f
>
> *(2) 'Koos Nolst Trenite: 'The Mafia Code Against Mankind'
> V2.1.txt.nfo'
> (Introduction to 'The Mafia Code Against Mankind'
> {HRI 20021018-V2.1} )
> (12 Aug 2007)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/0c0ac2bef1c56fc4
>
> *(3) 'US teen admits to 'Anonymous' DDoS attack on Scientology -
> Up to 10 years in the clink'http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/17/scientology_ddos_guilty_plea/
>
> '
>
> '
>
> _______________
> I wrote earlier (enclosure):
>
> Evil Creatures Fight for Evil BELIEFS, versus the Rational Truth
>
> 18 Sept 2008
> {HRI 20080918-V1.5}
>
> (Version 1.5
> on 26 Oct 2008)
>
> (not suitable for
> sociopaths)
>
> '
>
> I hope you get that now: THEY have beliefs, WE have the rational
> truth.
>
> THEY are Criminal Minds, and Criminal Minds have everything in
> reverse, so
>
> THEY claim the opposite, that "they have the rational and
> scientific truth," and that "we have BELIEFS,"
>
> while THEY have - INTENTIONALLY and maliciously - BELIEFS,
> and WE have rational and scientific truth,
>
> which you can find in Fine Particle Physics, and in
> the Human Rights Issues.
>
> '
>
> '
>
> In the present context, Evil Creatures INTENTIONALLY, and against all
> rationality and proof, fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF,
>
> that "people are bodies and not souls,"
>
> the rational truth being, that people are souls, and not bodies,
> nor a brain;
>
> '
>
> '
>
> Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF,
>
> that "perception is not done spiritually," but "consists of the
> stimulation of the body's sense-organs, including the brain,"
>
> the rational truth being, that all perception is entirely
> spiritual (done with Life Energy Particles) and IN ADDITION TO
> THAT, may be, or may not be, conducted via the body's sense
> organs; (***)
>
> '
>
> '
>
> Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF,
>
> that people's memory "is engraved on the molecules of the brain," and
> that "(also) therefore, people, being brains, have not lived before
> as souls,"
>
> the rational truth being, that the soul is intimately connected
> to the brain, through Life Energy Particles, and that memory is
> stored in Life Energy Particles, in the soul, and that, with
> Life Energy Particles, you connect to and thus become aware of
> content;
>
> most hilarious - or truly sad, should "incurable"
> 'diseases' like Alzheimer have beset you - is,
>
> how Evil Creatures try to "explain" remissions or times of
> sudden recovery of the ability to remember, etc. or how
> they "explain" the sudden loss of memory;
>
> '
>
> '
>
> Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF, that
>
> "all perception and all memory is a delusion," or must be labeled
> so if it is unwanted by Evil Creatures, and if "politely" or
> "more convincingly" so, then as "your own reality" or "your own
> truth,"
>
> for the obvious reason of them not wanting witnesses to be
> believed, and
>
> - while truth is simply what happened and is thus
> absolute, as any sane person knows -
>
> it is labeled by them as "being your delusion," for the
> reason of
>
> them not wanting to be recognized and made responsible for the
> Evil they inflicted on others, on you, especially in the past
> of earlier lives:
>
> "Nobody did it," or, they mean the same, by saying
>
> "God inflicted it," or, they mean the same, that "they,
> Criminal Minds, did not do it," and they say
>
> "it is Karma," by which they mean, that "they, Criminal
> Minds, did not do it," and they say instead, that
>
> "suffering is necessary, and ultimately caused by
> yourself."
>
> Really... so when you hear those things, you know you are
> listening to a Criminal Mind or to a follower of a Criminal
> Mind.
>
> '
>
> '
>
> Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous and medieval)
> BELIEF, that "human Life only existed and only exists, on planet
> Earth," and "existed not even on Mars,"
>
> and in addition to that, the BELIEF, that "Einstein is
> Intelligent," while they can not even DEFINE Intelligence
>
> - see the HRI's for the definition of 'Intelligence' -
>
> (shortest definition)
>
> 'ability to connect to data and to separate data,'
>
> {definition} from {HRI 20080406-V4.6.2}
>
> and "intelligence" amongst Evil Creatures - THEIR
> "definition" of "Intelligence" - (Evil Intelligence) is
> (who has the greatest)
>
> 'Ability to deceive others the longest and with the gravest
> consequences' {definition}
>
> (Einstein being 'their prophet' and Einstein failing
> to use the of course major and first part of
> Intelligence:
>
> connecting to relevant and applicable, known data,
>
> which Einstein COMPLETELY omitted to do and, as you
> will be able to admit, that he omitted INTENTIONALLY
> and thus maliciously (*))
>
> contrasting wholly with the simple and very rational truth, being,
> that there have been and are and will be infinite occasions of life
> on an unimaginably vast amount of other planets, existing
>
> - including heaven-like societies and also societies like hell -
>
> not to mention other spiritual life. (**)
>
> '
>
> '
>
> Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous and medieval)
> BELIEF, that "Life after death is either paradisal, infernal, or
> nihil," and "did not exist before their present birth," (**)
>
> the rational truth being, that all people, being souls, have
> lived before with or without own body and life, and will live
> again very many life times, without or with an own body and
> life;
>
> Etcetera.
>
> '
>
> '
>
> So I hope you get that now.
>
> I repeat:
>
> THEY have beliefs, WE have the rational truth.
>
> THEY are Criminal Minds - Criminal Minds have everything in
> reverse - and so THEY claim "to have the rational and scientific
> truth" while having the very opposite,
>
> and they claim, that the simple and rational truth, is "merely
> beliefs."
>
> But it is THEY, while they are countering and hiding the fact,
> that they basically DO know the truth very well
>
> - which is why they are fighting it so hard, and why they
> know so very well WHAT and whom to fight -
>
> THEY, INTENTIONALLY and maliciously, have BELIEFS, and
>
> WE have (the) rational and scientific truth, which you can find back
> in 'Fine Particle Physics,' and in the 'Human Rights Issues.'
>
> '
>
> Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity'
> human rights philosopher and poet
>
> 'Solomon's wisdom was greater
> than the wisdom of
> all the men of the East,
> and greater
> than all the wisdom of Egypt.'
>
> 1 Kings 4:30
>
> _______________
> I wrote earlier:
>
> You can not even DEFINE 'addiction,' because you lack
>
> "Fine Particle Physics" (*)(***)
>
> which gives you the definitions of Awareness and of
> Perception.
>
> '
>
> _________
> Footnotes:
>
> (*) Fine Particle Physics - found for instance athttp://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics
>
> (**) 'Defining God correctly - and Heaven, and Hell - What is
> Monotheism' (DGC)
> {HRI 20080406-V4.7}
> (6 April 2008 - Version 4.7 on 24 Oct 2008)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/e31acc265dd891ae
>
> (***) (taken from {HRI 20040617-V3.8})
>
> ------ (How You Are Connected To Your Body)
>
> You can be influenced by the Life Energies of your
> body - to a greater or lesser extent -
>
> AND you can influence the Life Energies of your body
> - to a greater or lesser extent.
>
> I will say that in more easy terms for you:
>
> You can influence your body well, very well,
> extraordinarily well, or not so well, or quite
> badly.
>
> And your body can influence you greatly or even
> dominantly,
>
> with all its perceptions and anything
> your body is made to feel, good or bad,
> almost determining your thinking and
> activities, and
>
> you can let all your communications and
> Energies come and go via or through your
> body's Energy structures,
>
> or you can do things, make your perceptions and
> observations and communications more directly
> from person to person or from soul to soul,
>
> which I know is the way almost anybody
> highly likes to be addressed, certainly
> by me, addressing people as they are -
> they ARE souls. *(10)
>
> '
>
> And you can even train yourself, to have
> certain Energies that come in via or from
> your body,
>
> for instance Pain Energies, quite
> obviously, but also Unconsciousness
> Energies (such as those Energies that
> make or made you fall asleep) and
> Repulsive Energies (ugly feelings,
> itching and the like), to have these
>
> not connect into your soul, but to handle these
> so well, that you can keep these at bay,
>
> so that these Poisoning Energies will
> not cripple your feelings, and will not
> stop your being alive, and
>
> so that these Poisoning Energies will
> not destroy your ability to detect the
> source and nature of those who create and
> project such Energies,
>
> and you can train yourself, to more easily
> keep these sources - those who project
> Poisoned Energies - at bay, in order to look
> at these individuals, to understand them and
> their intentions,
>
> so as to more quickly nullify these Poisoned
> (and Poisonous) Life Energies.
>
> '
>
> Around the time of birth, when you are born or
> slightly earlier already, you connect your Life
> Energy into the brain, into the eyes, ears, nose,
> skin, internal organs etcetera,
>
> and then, usually rather strongly when these
> have become fully grown and functional,
>
> and thus can and do produce certain Life
> Energies or feelings (Life Energies
> contain(ing) feelings),
>
> also into the genitals of the body,
>
> feelings from the body's genitals to you,
> that you can, however, also produce
> yourself (you can create the Energies)
> and put these into those organs, and
>
> you get normally a combination of these
> Energies (from your body, and from
> yourself, your soul creating it), and
> then of course the same applies to a
> partner, and to creating those feelings
> in each other's body too.
>
> And again, Criminal Minds will try
> to interfere quite heavily and in
> various ways,
>
> by projecting Poisonous and
>
> deceptive Energies,
>
> into those very natural processes.
>
> '
>
> And you connect at the same time also to (and use)
> the various Life Energy structures that exist around
> the body and keep the body alive, living, and that
> make interactions via the body,
>
> Life Energy Particle Fields connecting to the
> body - with structures made out of Life Energy
> Particles - and some prominent structures are
>
> (commonly called wheels, alive, moving,
> turning Life Energy Particle structures -
> in the Sanskrit language, wheels are
> 'chakras')
>
> geared to receive from others and from the
> environment - as well as to emanate to others
> and to the environment - particular types of
> Life Energy.
>
> '
>
> Life Energy is used to interact
> with life:
>
> All aspects and activities
> of life consist of actions
> with Life Energy,
>
> and matter itself - from the
> smallest atoms to the biggest
> planets and suns - is made
> out of Life Energy, too.
>
> '
>
> The martial arts are using a particular
> type of Life Energy Particles that exert
> physical force, and they call these Chi
> or Qi or Ki. (The Chinese pronounce it
> 'Tsyee.')
>
> The Eastern healing arts concentrate on
> another type of Life Energy Particles,
> that keep the body functioning and alive,
> and that form various structures or
> strings of Life Energy Particles for that
> purpose in, on and around the body, and
> they use in India the term Prana in
> particular for those Energy Particles,
>
> and some also use that same word,
> Prana, to denote the type of Life
> Energy that connects you to Life,
> that produces connection and thus
> feeling or awareness, and not only
> of the body.
>
> '
>
> You can in various ways decide and practice to bring
> about less connection of your Life Energies to the
> body, or on the other hand, you can decide and
> practice to make more connection of your Life Energy
> to the body.
>
> So you get the various practices that try to
> make you do that. I mentioned Chi or Qi, Ki,
> which is a word that you find in many
> practices, and then there is Yoga, and
> various such philosophies like Taoism, Bon Po,
> Sufism, Tantra, etc., and you find what of it
> has not been rejected but assimilated, in
> some (highly varying) brands of Buddhism, Zen,
> etcetera.
>
> In Christianity and Islam, these things are
> often designated with the term miracles - as in
> 'miracle healing' or 'faith healing.'
>
> When you have been made very stupid by
> school education or by medical education
> (with the criminal neglect of knowledge,
> that they are hiding these things from
> you),
>
> then this knowledge can be sold to
> you as "the secret of the single
> and only source of success in all
> areas of life."
>
> As said, all aspects and all
> activities of life consist
> of actions with Life Energy.
>
> And some people charge you merely
> twenty dollars for telling you,
> that Life Energy exists,
>
> you use it all the time
> abundantly, so it is more or
> less like
>
> 'telling a sailor that
> water exists.'
>
> Others charge you, in the course
> of half a life time, a million
> dollars for only the promise to
> tell you,
>
> and still telling you not -
> also at the end not - that
> it exists, let alone telling
> you, that
>
> it is known since eternity, and known to any
> person with even the slightest education - or
> with no education at all, but - simply with a
> feeling of life and of people.
>
> '
>
> But some severe Criminal Minds, they are
> sophisticated Psychopaths,
>
> like the famous Greek destroyer of
> rationality and health, the one
> called Hippocrates,
>
> want it "known" and seen as "rational,"
> that
>
> "Life Energy does NOT exist."
>
> Other equally undetected and equally
> sophisticated Criminal Minds, working
> for personal glory in order not to be
> seen for what they are, (they are not
> working for people, but for fame)
>
> like Antoine Lavoisier and Benjamin
> Franklin,
>
> then introduced that denial - the very
> denial of life itself - as "rationality"
> into science, and even into politics,
> *(5)
>
> and so they made it up to this day
> impossible 'to close the lid of
> the "Box of Pandora" from which
> they sprang:'
>
> They made it impossible to
> detect Criminal Minds and
> what these do, impossible
> to detect THEM...
>
> ------ (Your Life Energy Is Altered By Criminal Minds)
>
> Always they screen and thus hide
>
> most intense evil and extreme ugliness,
> violence, betrayal, drugs, pain, and
> unconsciousness,
>
> and they screen and hide the memory you and others
> have of their activities,
>
> and your knowledge and recall of those
> activities, is of course
>
> most vital to recover till you know the truth,
>
> vital to know the truth of, which is necessary to
> have in order to achieve any rational use of the
> mentioned Life Energies
>
> - the very use that the many practices for Chi
> (Qi, Ki), and Prana are trying to achieve!
>
> So I hope you understand now, that you won't
> get anywhere near such rational use,
>
> until you begin studying Criminal Minds,
> and until you can understand and detect
> them.
>
> And not only detecting Criminal Minds,
> but also detecting the Destructive
> Cowards who prevent their detection, and
> who do the work for Criminal Minds:
>
> I am sure you have seen or you have
> experienced how Destructive Cowards
> obey Criminal Minds
>
> "in order to 'protect' themselves
> from those Criminal Minds," and you
> have seen
>
> how these Destructive Cowards
> "'predict' how the future will be
> for others 'if they do not submit
> to Criminal Minds,"
>
> how these Destructive Cowards did
> betray others into slavery and
> delivered them to be consequently
> destroyed by Criminal Minds, and
>
> how these Destructive Cowards are
> pretending, that that treachery is
> the way "to protect themselves and
> others from the wrath of Criminal
> Minds."
>
> '
>
> Also those people - indeed many of them
> Destructive Cowards - who do NOT want to look
> at intense evil, have riddled spiritual
> practices,
>
> with very many false data - and they
> INTENTIONALLY continue to riddle it,
>
> while these subjects and these practices are
> advertised as bettering your command of your
> own Life Energy.
>
> And many false ideas that are contained
> in their philosophies and practices, were
> - as you may understand now - invented
> and placed deliberately, by Criminal
> Minds.
>
> '
>
> What applies generally:
>
> if you do NOT admit that Criminal Minds DO
> exist, and
>
> if you then do NOT go and acquire sufficient
> understanding about their ways and methods, and
> about the intentions that guide their actions,
>
> you don't get anywhere,
>
> much like building a castle on the beach
> that is rinsed away by the next tide:
>
> All your endless training and your deliberately
> inflicting entirely unnecessary hardships on yourself
> and on your body, and on others too, for many years,
> or for many life times,
>
> INSTEAD OF PRACTICING TO DETECT AND FACE
> CRIMINAL MINDS,
>
> only finds you (in a condition of having) developed
> and trained endlessly to acquire the means,
>
> the abilities and certainties acquired through
> endless training,
>
> that merely provide you with the illusion
>
> which indeed is successfully
> intended by Criminal Minds,
>
> the false "awareness," that
>
> "you can handle life now,"
>
> WHILE YOU CANNOT EVEN PROTECT ONE BILLION
> CHINESE FROM BEING CAVED IN AND DEGRADING
> EACH OTHER AND ENSLAVING EACH OTHER, and then
> murdering a few million Tibetans too,
>
> WHILE THEY WERE HYPNOTIZED BY A CRIMINAL
> MIND... BY MAO ZEDONG WITH HIS BOOK OF
> LIES.
>
> And they still try to do the same to some
> twenty million Chinese off the coast of China,
> who, I think, are getting along very well and
> happily WITHOUT the "help" of some unnamed
> Criminal Minds in "the motherland."
>
> '
>
> So what you DO achieve - each life time again -
>
> by not detecting and by not understanding and
> by not facing Criminal Minds, but
>
> spending endless years with your practices "to
> handle Life Energy" and your body,
>
> - only for some fleeting moment, for a part of
> each life time only, at best -
>
> what you achieve, at best,
>
> is that you make 'your life in the cave' more
> pleasant, or in other words, you make your being
> 'caved in' slightly more pleasant,
>
> as was pointed out to you already by Plato,
> more than two thousand years ago.
>
> ________________________________
> Quoted and slightly edited, from:
>
> 'About Aliens, Dimensions, Consciousness, Time, And Earth's Past
> And Future'
> {HRI 20040617-V3.8}
> (17 June 2004 - Version 3.8 on 29 August 2004)http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/518554a536e1bf6e
>
> (10) 'Who Feels Bach Correctly - The Soul Of Music'
> {HRI 20040704-V3.1}
> (4 July 2004 - Version 3.1 on 12 June 2005)http://groups.google.com/group/Koos-Nolst-Trenite/msg/59073fd311d18594
>
> (nn) (More as applicable)
> '
>
> ____________
> Verification:
>
> http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld
>
> Copyright 2004, 2008 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
> and poet
> This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
> anyone who learns from it and (even if he can not learn from it)
> who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
> to others who might be able to learn from it (but not to sociopaths,
> who vehemently oppose any true knowledge of life and of themselves).
> None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
> or religious or scientific 'agenda,' but only to educate, and to
> encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
> about any organizations or individuals.
> Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
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Freedom Fighter
2008-12-08 13:01:30 EST
"Frank" <dawgface@ten.hut> wrote in message news:ghi4sv$cvj$1@aioe.org...
>
> "Freedom Fighter" <liberty@once.net> wrote in message
> news:fN%_k.181693$Mh5.109586@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> "Frank" <dawgface@ten.hut> wrote in message news:ghi03v$qme$1@aioe.org...
>>>
>>> "Freedom Fighter" <liberty@once.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Ua%_k.58966$_Y1.1990@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>> See what "RELIGIONS" (CULTS) do to peoples' minds?
>>>> (A cult being just a "religion" that hasn't been around long).
>>>>
>>>> Adults no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy - but they still kill each
>>>> other over ancient myths and superstitions.
>>
>>> The educated do not do this, Christianity does not support that nor has
>>> it ever.
>>
>> Not even when they were torturing and burning "witches" to death?
>> A parochial "education" is not education, it is religious brainwashing.
>>
>
> Christianity teaches to be at peace with all men as much as it is
> possible. Killing, murdering, torturing and the like is not allowed.

So WHY did they do it?
Because religion is INCAPABLE of bringing about enlightened, civilized
behavior!

> Mankind has their own way of thinking but it does not necessarily line up
> with Gods way. Burning witches to death is no different than what you are
> doing in principle. A parochial training that uses brainwashing is the
> product of man, not God. Children are to be taught in the ways of God, but
> it is always their choice to believe or not. Obviously you were not
> "brainwashed". :)

So God is INCAPABLE of making man, supposedly his creation, behave civilly?
Some God!

>>>> "We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion of
>>>> love and gentleness; how many bodies were burned alive with the
>>>> genuinely kind intention of saving souls from the eternal fire of
>>>> hell." --- Karl Popper
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is pretty obvious that Karl Popper didn't know WTH he was talking
>>> about.
>>
>> He knew exactly, as history well documents.
>
> History does not document it. It only documents things that mankind did
> with false assumptions. The Bible does not teach that. You have to
> differentiate between the Truth and false truths of mankind. The only
> organized religion that I know of that calls for killing others that don't
> believe is Islam, Muslim or whatever you want to call it. Their Koran
> teaches it and requires it.

There are many cruel acts and advocacies thereof in the bible. God is
depicted as vengeful.
Religion does FAR MORE HARM THAN GOOD!

> I don't really expect you to see any difference since your eyes are
> blinded to the truth, but irregardless that is the way that it is. Under
> the old Covenant there were times that God ordered a nation destroyed, but
> not without warning. However I realize that it is not the time period you
> are discussing.

It is you that refuses to see the truth and clings to ancient myths and
superstitions.
Hopefully someday you, and all like you, will wake up. Then mankind may
emerge from the dark ages.



Marcia
2008-12-08 13:30:15 EST
On Dec 8, 1:01 pm, "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote:
> "Frank" <dawgf...@ten.hut> wrote in messagenews:ghi4sv$cvj$1@aioe.org...
>
> > "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote in message
> >news:fN%_k.181693$Mh5.109586@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >> "Frank" <dawgf...@ten.hut> wrote in messagenews:ghi03v$qme$1@aioe.org...
>
> >>> "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:Ua%_k.58966$_Y1.1990@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >>>> See what "RELIGIONS" (CULTS) do to peoples' minds?
> >>>> (A cult being just a "religion" that hasn't been around long).
>
> >>>> Adults no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy - but they still kill each
> >>>> other over ancient myths and superstitions.
>
> >>> The educated do not do this, Christianity does not support that nor has
> >>> it ever.
>
> >> Not even when they were torturing and burning "witches" to death?
> >> A parochial "education" is not education, it is religious brainwashing.
>
> > Christianity teaches to be at peace with all men as much as it is
> > possible. Killing, murdering, torturing and the like is not allowed.
>
> So WHY did they do it?
> Because religion is INCAPABLE of bringing about enlightened, civilized
> behavior!
>
> > Mankind has their own way of thinking but it does not necessarily line up
> > with Gods way. Burning witches to death is no different than what you are
> > doing in principle. A parochial training that uses brainwashing is the
> > product of man, not God. Children are to be taught in the ways of God, but
> > it is always their choice to believe or not. Obviously you were not
> > "brainwashed". :)
>
> So God is INCAPABLE of making man, supposedly his creation, behave civilly?
> Some God!
>
>
>
> >>>> "We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion of
> >>>> love and gentleness; how many bodies were burned alive with the
> >>>> genuinely kind intention of saving souls from the eternal fire of
> >>>> hell." --- Karl Popper
>
> >>> It is pretty obvious that Karl Popper didn't know WTH he was talking
> >>> about.
>
> >> He knew exactly, as history well documents.
>
> > History does not document it. It only documents things that mankind did
> > with false assumptions. The Bible does not teach that. You have to
> > differentiate between the Truth and false truths of mankind. The only
> > organized religion that I know of that calls for killing others that don't
> > believe is Islam, Muslim or whatever you want to call it. Their Koran
> > teaches it and requires it.
>
> There are many cruel acts and advocacies thereof in the bible. God is
> depicted as vengeful.
> Religion does FAR MORE HARM THAN GOOD!
>
> > I don't really expect you to see any difference since your eyes are
> > blinded to the truth, but irregardless that is the way that it is. Under
> > the old Covenant there were times that God ordered a nation destroyed, but
> > not without warning. However I realize that it is not the time period you
> > are discussing.
>
> It is you that refuses to see the truth and clings to ancient myths and
> superstitions.
> Hopefully someday you, and all like you, will wake up. Then mankind may
> emerge from the dark ages.

You know, it's been demonstrated that humans yield reason to social
pressure, tending to conform to the norms of the social group with
which they identify. This can lead either to pro-social or anti-social
behavior, depending on the nature of the group. Neither theism nor
atheism, by itself, produces virtue or corruption.

I seriously doubt mankind's wholesale rejection of God will lead us
out of the "dark ages." Our problem lies not so much with the concept
of God as with the natural imperfection of human beings and the
limitations of our minds and ethical convictions.
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