1. Israeli Peace Offer Would Maintain 230,000 West Bank Settlers 2. Israeli FM Promises “Maximum Settlers” on Palestinian Land 3. Report by Israeli Newspaper: Israel Hid Settlement Data
1. Israeli Peace Offer Would Maintain 230,000 West Bank Settlers
The Israeli government has admitted its most recent peace offer to Palestinian negotiators would still leave more than 200,000 Jewish settlers in the occupied West Bank. The offer was made in talks between Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. In meetings with US envoy George Mitchell, both Olmert and Abbas confirmed the Israeli offer would remove just 60,000 settlers of the 290,000 in the West Bank. The remaining 230,000 settlers would stay in the large settlement blocs that nearly cut the West Bank in half. Not a single Palestinian refugee would be granted the right to return to their former home in Israel. Palestinians were offered an equal amount of Israeli land in return and shared sovereignty over parts of East Jerusalem. But the settlements are widely considered illegal under international law and a non-starter for many Palestinians. Palestinian negotiators reportedly refused a demand to sign off on the deal that would then be handled by the winner of the upcoming Israeli elections.
2. Israeli FM Promises “Maximum Settlers” on Palestinian Land
Former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is leading polls and has rejected any territorial concession to the Palestinians. And even though the offer would still ensure Israeli control over key settlement blocs, Netanyahu’s opponent, Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, has distanced herself from the proposal as being too generous. Livni said, “I will advance only an agreement that represents our interests. Maintaining maximum settlers and places that we hold dear such as Jerusalem—not a single refugee will enter.” Meanwhile, Mitchell continued his Mideast tour with meetings in the occupied West Bank. On Thursday, Mitchell sat down with Abbas in Ramallah.
Middle East envoy George Mitchell: “To be successful in preventing the illicit trafficking of arms into Gaza, there must be a mechanism to allow the flow of legal goods, and that should be with the participation of the Palestinian Authority. President Obama has also underlined our commitment to a better future for all Palestinians, whose legitimate aspirations for an independent and viable state should be met.”
3. Report: Israel Hid Settlement Data
Mitchell’s visit comes amidst reports the Israeli government has deliberately hidden its own data showing rapid construction in West Bank settlements.
The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reports an internal government survey found construction in three out of four settlements was conducted without proper permits and, in many cases, on private Palestinian land. The Israeli group Peace Now said this week settlement expansion grew 57 percent last year. Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said Abbas told Mitchell that Israel’s blockade of Gaza and its expanding West Bank settlements are the main obstacles to peace.
Saeb Erekat: “For the Israelis to continue their settlement activities and at the same time to continue trying to separate between the West Bank and Gaza, because we believe that the Israeli attacks and aggression against Gaza—one of the objective is to keep the West Bank separated from Gaza, and this cannot stand. The West Bank, the Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem are a single territorial unit that’s the territory of the Palestinian state, and we will spare no effort, as President Abbas told Mr. Mitchell, to pursue, with the assistance of our Egyptian brothers, the path of national reconciliation."
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Drref
2009-01-30 18:06:46 EST
"EconomicDemocracy Coop" <econdemocracy@gmail.com> wrote in message news:8b1bbd90-f8fd-4c95-843d-209f039061fd@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com... 1. Israeli Peace Offer Would Maintain 230,000 West Bank Settlers 2. Israeli FM Promises \ufffdMaximum Settlers\ufffd on Palestinian Land 3. Report by Israeli Newspaper: Israel Hid Settlement Data
Lets make it clear. The palies are not getting their way. THEY get to compromise.
Scotius
2009-02-02 18:03:08 EST
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:33:01 -0800 (PST), EconomicDemocracy Coop <*y@gmail.com> wrote:
>1. Israeli Peace Offer Would Maintain 230,000 West Bank Settlers
1967 - Egypts' Nasser threatens to "...drive the Jews into the sea". - Starts a war with Israel. - Israel occupies regions Egypt and Jordan had hoped to invade Israel through (West Bank and Gaza Strip). - UN gripes about Israel providing it's own security, calls occupation "illegal", although clearly defensive and legal, etc.
... 2009. No one cares what the UN, Hannan Ashrawi, Hamas, etc think about anything. Accustom yourself to that. It will do you good.
Alen
2009-02-02 20:31:56 EST
On Jan 31, 10:06 am, "drref" <jeffreykrantz...@verizon.net> wrote: > "EconomicDemocracy Coop" <econdemocr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:8b1bbd90-f8fd-4c95-843d-209f039061fd@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > 1. Israeli Peace Offer Would Maintain 230,000 West Bank Settlers > 2. Israeli FM Promises “Maximum Settlers” on Palestinian Land > 3. Report by Israeli Newspaper: Israel Hid Settlement Data > > Lets make it clear. The palies are not getting their way. THEY get to > compromise.
It is refreshing to get honest revelations from the Israeli side. The Palestinians will be offered a 'claytons' state, i.e. a state you have when you are not having a state.
Is it any wonder Arafat walked away from so-called negotiations.
I would think that the US Iraq army should be taken out of Iraq and sent into the West Bank, to raze all the settlements to the ground and set up a proper state for the Palestinians.
Alen
SilentOtto
2009-02-02 20:50:43 EST
On Feb 2, 6:03 pm, Scotius <yodas...@mnsi.net> wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:33:01 -0800 (PST), EconomicDemocracy Coop > > <econdemocr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >1. Israeli Peace Offer Would Maintain 230,000 West Bank Settlers > > 1967 - Egypts' Nasser threatens to "...drive the Jews into the > sea". > - Starts a war with Israel. > - Israel occupies regions Egypt and Jordan had hoped to invade > Israel through (West Bank and Gaza Strip). > - UN gripes about Israel providing it's own security, calls > occupation "illegal", although clearly defensive and legal, etc. > > ... 2009. No one cares what the UN, Hannan Ashrawi, Hamas, etc > think about anything. Accustom yourself to that. It will do you good.
Tell me...
With the slowly increasing economic and military power of Islamic states in the Middle East, what do you suppose Israel's long term prospects are if they won't find a path to peace with the Palestinians?
It took the Muslims around a century to evict the crusaders.
But, evict them they did.
Heh heh...
Rightards...
There's a whole world past the end of your nose.
Drref
2009-02-02 22:51:32 EST
"alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> wrote in message news:6665d8da-5a4b-4d44-a2e8-101501799f09@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com... On Jan 31, 10:06 am, "drref" <jeffreykrantz...@verizon.net> wrote: > "EconomicDemocracy Coop" <econdemocr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:8b1bbd90-f8fd-4c95-843d-209f039061fd@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > 1. Israeli Peace Offer Would Maintain 230,000 West Bank Settlers > 2. Israeli FM Promises \ufffdMaximum Settlers\ufffd on Palestinian Land > 3. Report by Israeli Newspaper: Israel Hid Settlement Data > > Lets make it clear. The palies are not getting their way. THEY get to > compromise.
It is refreshing to get honest revelations from the Israeli side. The Palestinians will be offered a 'claytons' state, i.e. a state you have when you are not having a state.
Is it any wonder Arafat walked away from so-called negotiations.
I would think that the US Iraq army should be taken out of Iraq and sent into the West Bank, to raze all the settlements to the ground and set up a proper state for the Palestinians.