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Dan Clore
2010-02-28 10:25:23 EST
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo

The video can be found here:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125837

Transcript (about 8:50 forward -- Beck is pointing to a blackboard diagram):

"Okay, I showed you this chart yesterday and I said, this is you, kind
of in the middle, the vast majority of people are on the middle,
conservatives are over here, progressives are over here, and the fringe
elements, and the birthers and 9/11 truthers are over here with the
progressives, and the birthers and the 9/11 truthers are over here, with
the conservatives as well, but there is also something else over, in
fact, let me flip this, let me flip this over if I can, and show you, is
it on this side here, and show you what's on the other side here,
because it's not really right, I was thinking about it last night, and
it's really not, it's really not a straight line like that, it's more of
a circle, okay, here are the *total government* people, right here, they
meet here, you've got the progressives, over here, and you've got the
*anarchists*, and I don't even know, the fascists, the people who are
hiding in the hills, with their Nazi signs, I don't even know who those
people are, but here they are, they're here, on the left and the right,
the crazy people, who don't really like America, got it? In this group,
you have communists, like Van Jones, you have, he's a 9/11 truther, you
have Medina, she's not a communist, she's not an anarchist, she's really
more of a, uh, this is a woman that's running for Texas governor, but
she is a 9/11, uh, truther, or at least thinks that there are some good
questions that haven't been answered, I agree with you, but one of them
is not did George Bush blow up the World Trade Center, here's Alan
Keyes, he's a birther, this guy, what is this guy's name again, he's a
Democrat, he's one of the original birthers, what's his name, Philip
Berg, he's a Democrat, he was the first birther, or one of the first
ones [video ends]."

(Emphasis added.)

So: anarchist = progressive = communist = fascist = crazy = Nazi =
birther = Democrat = 9/11 truther = total government people!

Any questions?

--
Dan Clore

New book: _Weird Words: A Lovecraftian Lexicon_:
http://tinyurl.com/yd3bxkw
My collected fiction: _The Unspeakable and Others_
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0035LTS0O
Lord Weÿrdgliffe & Necronomicon Page:
http://tinyurl.com/292yz9
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo

Skipper: Professor, will you tell these people who is
in charge on this island?
Professor: Why, no one.
Skipper: No one?
Thurston Howell III: No one? Good heavens, this is anarchy!
-- _Gilligan's Island_, episode #6, "President Gilligan"































Anarcissie
2010-02-28 11:05:16 EST
In article <4B8A8AE3.6050508@columbia-center.org>,
Dan Clore <clore@columbia-center.org> wrote:

> News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
>
> The video can be found here:
> http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125837
>
> Transcript (about 8:50 forward -- Beck is pointing to a blackboard diagram):
>
> "Okay, I showed you this chart yesterday and I said, this is you, kind
> of in the middle, the vast majority of people are on the middle,
> conservatives are over here, progressives are over here, and the fringe
> elements, and the birthers and 9/11 truthers are over here with the
> progressives, and the birthers and the 9/11 truthers are over here, with
> the conservatives as well, but there is also something else over, in
> fact, let me flip this, let me flip this over if I can, and show you, is
> it on this side here, and show you what's on the other side here,
> because it's not really right, I was thinking about it last night, and
> it's really not, it's really not a straight line like that, it's more of
> a circle, okay, here are the *total government* people, right here, they
> meet here, you've got the progressives, over here, and you've got the
> *anarchists*, and I don't even know, the fascists, the people who are
> hiding in the hills, with their Nazi signs, I don't even know who those
> people are, but here they are, they're here, on the left and the right,
> the crazy people, who don't really like America, got it? In this group,
> you have communists, like Van Jones, you have, he's a 9/11 truther, you
> have Medina, she's not a communist, she's not an anarchist, she's really
> more of a, uh, this is a woman that's running for Texas governor, but
> she is a 9/11, uh, truther, or at least thinks that there are some good
> questions that haven't been answered, I agree with you, but one of them
> is not did George Bush blow up the World Trade Center, here's Alan
> Keyes, he's a birther, this guy, what is this guy's name again, he's a
> Democrat, he's one of the original birthers, what's his name, Philip
> Berg, he's a Democrat, he was the first birther, or one of the first
> ones [video ends]."
>
> (Emphasis added.)
>
> So: anarchist = progressive = communist = fascist = crazy = Nazi =
> birther = Democrat = 9/11 truther = total government people!
>
> Any questions?

Yes, I thought Beck was supposed to be some
kind of right-winger, but this sort of thing is highly
reminiscent of the line put out by the ruling class
that all who do not support their version of
liberalism are of the party of the Devil and all
pretty much alike. Certainly for them socialist =
communist = fascist = Nazi. Anarchists are fascists
because a few of them broke windows in Seattle in
1999. The Left and the Right (they say) come
together in the totalitarian police state. By and
large rightists do not seem to subscribe to this
general view.

I am also surprised that Beck is not more supportive of
truthers and birthers and other conspiratists. It is
my impression (admittedly from hearsay) that a good
many of the people who showed up for his Tea Party
demonstrations were of these fraternities.

Strabo
2010-03-01 02:34:15 EST
Dan Clore wrote:
> News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
>
> The video can be found here:
> http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125837
>
> Transcript (about 8:50 forward -- Beck is pointing to a blackboard
> diagram):
>
> "Okay, I showed you this chart yesterday and I said, this is you, kind
> of in the middle, the vast majority of people are on the middle,
> conservatives are over here, progressives are over here, and the fringe
> elements, and the birthers and 9/11 truthers are over here with the
> progressives, and the birthers and the 9/11 truthers are over here, with
> the conservatives as well, but there is also something else over, in
> fact, let me flip this, let me flip this over if I can, and show you, is
> it on this side here, and show you what's on the other side here,
> because it's not really right, I was thinking about it last night, and
> it's really not, it's really not a straight line like that, it's more of
> a circle, okay, here are the *total government* people, right here, they
> meet here, you've got the progressives, over here, and you've got the
> *anarchists*, and I don't even know, the fascists, the people who are
> hiding in the hills, with their Nazi signs, I don't even know who those
> people are, but here they are, they're here, on the left and the right,
> the crazy people, who don't really like America, got it? In this group,
> you have communists, like Van Jones, you have, he's a 9/11 truther, you
> have Medina, she's not a communist, she's not an anarchist, she's really
> more of a, uh, this is a woman that's running for Texas governor, but
> she is a 9/11, uh, truther, or at least thinks that there are some good
> questions that haven't been answered, I agree with you, but one of them
> is not did George Bush blow up the World Trade Center, here's Alan
> Keyes, he's a birther, this guy, what is this guy's name again, he's a
> Democrat, he's one of the original birthers, what's his name, Philip
> Berg, he's a Democrat, he was the first birther, or one of the first
> ones [video ends]."
>
> (Emphasis added.)
>
> So: anarchist = progressive = communist = fascist = crazy = Nazi =
> birther = Democrat = 9/11 truther = total government people!
>
> Any questions?
>

Beck is not a quick study but he is improving.

Dan Clore
2010-03-01 13:37:04 EST
Strabo wrote:
> Dan Clore wrote:
>> News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
>>
>> The video can be found here: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125837
>>
>> Transcript (about 8:50 forward -- Beck is pointing to a blackboard
>> diagram):
>>
>> "Okay, I showed you this chart yesterday and I said, this is you,
>> kind of in the middle, the vast majority of people are on the
>> middle, conservatives are over here, progressives are over here,
>> and the fringe elements, and the birthers and 9/11 truthers are
>> over here with the progressives, and the birthers and the 9/11
>> truthers are over here, with the conservatives as well, but there
>> is also something else over, in fact, let me flip this, let me flip
>> this over if I can, and show you, is it on this side here, and show
>> you what's on the other side here, because it's not really right, I
>> was thinking about it last night, and it's really not, it's really
>> not a straight line like that, it's more of a circle, okay, here
>> are the *total government* people, right here, they meet here,
>> you've got the progressives, over here, and you've got the
>> *anarchists*, and I don't even know, the fascists, the people who
>> are hiding in the hills, with their Nazi signs, I don't even know
>> who those people are, but here they are, they're here, on the left
>> and the right, the crazy people, who don't really like America, got
>> it? In this group, you have communists, like Van Jones, you have,
>> he's a 9/11 truther, you have Medina, she's not a communist, she's
>> not an anarchist, she's really more of a, uh, this is a woman
>> that's running for Texas governor, but she is a 9/11, uh, truther,
>> or at least thinks that there are some good questions that haven't
>> been answered, I agree with you, but one of them is not did George
>> Bush blow up the World Trade Center, here's Alan Keyes, he's a
>> birther, this guy, what is this guy's name again, he's a Democrat,
>> he's one of the original birthers, what's his name, Philip Berg,
>> he's a Democrat, he was the first birther, or one of the first ones
>> [video ends]."
>>
>> (Emphasis added.)
>>
>> So: anarchist = progressive = communist = fascist = crazy = Nazi =
>> birther = Democrat = 9/11 truther = total government people!
>>
>> Any questions?
>>
> Beck is not a quick study but he is improving.

I haven't really paid much attention to him, but I can only say, if this
stuff represents the result of improvement, oy veh!

--
Dan Clore

New book: _Weird Words: A Lovecraftian Lexicon_:
http://tinyurl.com/yd3bxkw
My collected fiction, _The Unspeakable and Others_:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0035LTS0O
Lord Weÿrdgliffe & Necronomicon Page:
http://tinyurl.com/292yz9
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo

Strange pleasures are known to him who flaunts the
immarcescible purple of poetry before the color-blind.
-- Clark Ashton Smith, "Epigrams and Apothegms"

Michael Price
2010-03-02 22:05:03 EST
On Mar 1, 3:05 am, Anarcissie <anarcis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <4B8A8AE3.6050...@columbia-center.org>,
>  Dan Clore <cl...@columbia-center.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
>
> > The video can be found here:
> >http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125837
>
> > Transcript (about 8:50 forward -- Beck is pointing to a blackboard diagram):
>
> > "Okay, I showed you this chart yesterday and I said, this is you, kind
> > of in the middle, the vast majority of people are on the middle,
> > conservatives are over here, progressives are over here, and the fringe
> > elements, and the birthers and 9/11 truthers are over here with the
> > progressives, and the birthers and the 9/11 truthers are over here, with
> > the conservatives as well, but there is also something else over, in
> > fact, let me flip this, let me flip this over if I can, and show you, is
> > it on this side here, and show you what's on the other side here,
> > because it's not really right, I was thinking about it last night, and
> > it's really not, it's really not a straight line like that, it's more of
> > a circle, okay, here are the *total government* people, right here, they
> > meet here, you've got the progressives, over here, and you've got the
> > *anarchists*, and I don't even know, the fascists, the people who are
> > hiding in the hills, with their Nazi signs, I don't even know who those
> > people are, but here they are, they're here, on the left and the right,
> > the crazy people, who don't really like America, got it? In this group,
> > you have communists, like Van Jones, you have, he's a 9/11 truther, you
> > have Medina, she's not a communist, she's not an anarchist, she's really
> > more of a, uh, this is a woman that's running for Texas governor, but
> > she is a 9/11, uh, truther, or at least thinks that there are some good
> > questions that haven't been answered, I agree with you, but one of them
> > is not did George Bush blow up the World Trade Center, here's Alan
> > Keyes, he's a birther, this guy, what is this guy's name again, he's a
> > Democrat, he's one of the original birthers, what's his name, Philip
> > Berg, he's a Democrat, he was the first birther, or one of the first
> > ones [video ends]."
>
> > (Emphasis added.)
>
> > So: anarchist = progressive = communist = fascist = crazy = Nazi =
> > birther = Democrat = 9/11 truther = total government people!
>
> > Any questions?
>
> Yes, I thought Beck was supposed to be some
> kind of right-winger, but this sort of thing is highly
> reminiscent of the line put out by the ruling class
> that all who do not support their version of
> liberalism are of the party of the Devil and all
> pretty much alike.  Certainly for them socialist =
> communist = fascist = Nazi.  Anarchists are fascists
> because a few of them broke windows in Seattle in
> 1999.  The Left and the Right (they say) come
> together in the totalitarian police state.  By and
> large rightists do not seem to subscribe to this
> general view.
>
> I am also surprised that Beck is not more supportive of
> truthers and birthers and other conspiratists.  It is
> my impression (admittedly from hearsay) that a good
> many of the people who showed up for his Tea Party
> demonstrations were of these fraternities.

My impression is that Beck is only for the Tea Partiers as long
as they're saying they don't like Obama. Any time they say
something outside the "mainstream" he comes down hard on
them. See his slandering on Medina on 9/11 truther allegations
because she wouldn't say right off the bat the government was
definitely being honest and there's nothing to see here. Any
doubt over the official story and you're a nutcase.

Dan Clore
2010-03-03 18:15:02 EST
Michael Price wrote:
> On Mar 1, 3:05 am, Anarcissie <anarcis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <4B8A8AE3.6050...@columbia-center.org>, Dan Clore
>> <cl...@columbia-center.org> wrote:
>>
>>> News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo The video can be found here:
>>> http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125837 Transcript (about 8:50
>>> forward -- Beck is pointing to a blackboard diagram): "Okay, I
>>> showed you this chart yesterday and I said, this is you, kind of
>>> in the middle, the vast majority of people are on the middle,
>>> conservatives are over here, progressives are over here, and the
>>> fringe elements, and the birthers and 9/11 truthers are over here
>>> with the progressives, and the birthers and the 9/11 truthers are
>>> over here, with the conservatives as well, but there is also
>>> something else over, in fact, let me flip this, let me flip this
>>> over if I can, and show you, is it on this side here, and show
>>> you what's on the other side here, because it's not really right,
>>> I was thinking about it last night, and it's really not, it's
>>> really not a straight line like that, it's more of a circle,
>>> okay, here are the *total government* people, right here, they
>>> meet here, you've got the progressives, over here, and you've got
>>> the *anarchists*, and I don't even know, the fascists, the people
>>> who are hiding in the hills, with their Nazi signs, I don't even
>>> know who those people are, but here they are, they're here, on
>>> the left and the right, the crazy people, who don't really like
>>> America, got it? In this group, you have communists, like Van
>>> Jones, you have, he's a 9/11 truther, you have Medina, she's not
>>> a communist, she's not an anarchist, she's really more of a, uh,
>>> this is a woman that's running for Texas governor, but she is a
>>> 9/11, uh, truther, or at least thinks that there are some good
>>> questions that haven't been answered, I agree with you, but one
>>> of them is not did George Bush blow up the World Trade Center,
>>> here's Alan Keyes, he's a birther, this guy, what is this guy's
>>> name again, he's a Democrat, he's one of the original birthers,
>>> what's his name, Philip Berg, he's a Democrat, he was the first
>>> birther, or one of the first ones [video ends]." (Emphasis
>>> added.) So: anarchist = progressive = communist = fascist = crazy
>>> = Nazi = birther = Democrat = 9/11 truther = total government
>>> people! Any questions?
>> Yes, I thought Beck was supposed to be some kind of right-winger,
>> but this sort of thing is highly reminiscent of the line put out by
>> the ruling class that all who do not support their version of
>> liberalism are of the party of the Devil and all pretty much alike.
>> Certainly for them socialist = communist = fascist = Nazi.
>> Anarchists are fascists because a few of them broke windows in
>> Seattle in 1999. The Left and the Right (they say) come together
>> in the totalitarian police state. By and large rightists do not
>> seem to subscribe to this general view.
>>
>> I am also surprised that Beck is not more supportive of truthers
>> and birthers and other conspiratists. It is my impression
>> (admittedly from hearsay) that a good many of the people who showed
>> up for his Tea Party demonstrations were of these fraternities.
>
> My impression is that Beck is only for the Tea Partiers as long as
> they're saying they don't like Obama. Any time they say something
> outside the "mainstream" he comes down hard on them. See his
> slandering on Medina on 9/11 truther allegations because she wouldn't
> say right off the bat the government was definitely being honest and
> there's nothing to see here. Any doubt over the official story and
> you're a nutcase.

The same goes for his claims about Van Jones.

--
Dan Clore

New book: _Weird Words: A Lovecraftian Lexicon_:
http://tinyurl.com/yd3bxkw
My collected fiction, _The Unspeakable and Others_:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0035LTS0O
Lord Weÿrdgliffe & Necronomicon Page:
http://tinyurl.com/292yz9
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo

Strange pleasures are known to him who flaunts the
immarcescible purple of poetry before the color-blind.
-- Clark Ashton Smith, "Epigrams and Apothegms"

Strabo
2010-03-04 02:04:08 EST
Dan Clore wrote:
> Strabo wrote:
>> Dan Clore wrote:
>>> News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
>>>
>>> The video can be found here: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125837
>>>
>>> Transcript (about 8:50 forward -- Beck is pointing to a blackboard
>>> diagram):
>>>
>>> "Okay, I showed you this chart yesterday and I said, this is you,
>>> kind of in the middle, the vast majority of people are on the
>>> middle, conservatives are over here, progressives are over here,
>>> and the fringe elements, and the birthers and 9/11 truthers are
>>> over here with the progressives, and the birthers and the 9/11
>>> truthers are over here, with the conservatives as well, but there
>>> is also something else over, in fact, let me flip this, let me flip
>>> this over if I can, and show you, is it on this side here, and show
>>> you what's on the other side here, because it's not really right, I
>>> was thinking about it last night, and it's really not, it's really
>>> not a straight line like that, it's more of a circle, okay, here
>>> are the *total government* people, right here, they meet here,
>>> you've got the progressives, over here, and you've got the
>>> *anarchists*, and I don't even know, the fascists, the people who
>>> are hiding in the hills, with their Nazi signs, I don't even know
>>> who those people are, but here they are, they're here, on the left
>>> and the right, the crazy people, who don't really like America, got
>>> it? In this group, you have communists, like Van Jones, you have,
>>> he's a 9/11 truther, you have Medina, she's not a communist, she's
>>> not an anarchist, she's really more of a, uh, this is a woman
>>> that's running for Texas governor, but she is a 9/11, uh, truther,
>>> or at least thinks that there are some good questions that haven't
>>> been answered, I agree with you, but one of them is not did George
>>> Bush blow up the World Trade Center, here's Alan Keyes, he's a
>>> birther, this guy, what is this guy's name again, he's a Democrat,
>>> he's one of the original birthers, what's his name, Philip Berg,
>>> he's a Democrat, he was the first birther, or one of the first ones
>>> [video ends]."
>>>
>>> (Emphasis added.)
>>>
>>> So: anarchist = progressive = communist = fascist = crazy = Nazi =
>>> birther = Democrat = 9/11 truther = total government people!
>>>
>>> Any questions?
>>>
>> Beck is not a quick study but he is improving.
>
> I haven't really paid much attention to him, but I can only say, if this
> stuff represents the result of improvement, oy veh!
>

He didn't say much about anarchists. It came up on his blackboard
drawing of political affiliations based on an early test of
libertarianism.

Beck seems to see anarchy as a non-starter comprised of "crazy people"
and opposite fascism and communism on his linear graph.

It looked something like this...

|
Communism |
------------Progressive----------|------Libertarian----Anarchy
Fascism |
|


So once you leave anarchy you enter minimal government or today's
libertarian. This was the Republic. Since the 1900s the actions of
Progressives (Marxist/Socialist/Leninist/Stalinist) have shifted the
US toward Socialism where Liberals and Conservatives are today.

Since Progressives move away from minimal government and always talk of
change, they are planning more government and will eventually wind
up as either Communist or Fascist.

This is much more sophisticated than his attempts to describe relative
politics a few months ago.

It's a process of personal learning for him which he must then reconcile
with Neocon taboos like 9/11, Obama's birth certificate, federal
reserve, and others.



Poetic Justice
2010-03-04 11:54:49 EST
On 3/4/2010 2:04 AM, Strabo wrote:
> Dan Clore wrote:
>> Strabo wrote:
>>> Dan Clore wrote:
>>>> News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
>>>>
>>>> The video can be found here: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125837
>>>>
>>>> Transcript (about 8:50 forward -- Beck is pointing to a blackboard
>>>> diagram):
>>>>
>>>> "Okay, I showed you this chart yesterday and I said, this is you,
>>>> kind of in the middle, the vast majority of people are on the
>>>> middle, conservatives are over here, progressives are over here,
>>>> and the fringe elements, and the birthers and 9/11 truthers are
>>>> over here with the progressives, and the birthers and the 9/11
>>>> truthers are over here, with the conservatives as well, but there
>>>> is also something else over, in fact, let me flip this, let me flip
>>>> this over if I can, and show you, is it on this side here, and show
>>>> you what's on the other side here, because it's not really right, I
>>>> was thinking about it last night, and it's really not, it's really
>>>> not a straight line like that, it's more of a circle, okay, here
>>>> are the *total government* people, right here, they meet here,
>>>> you've got the progressives, over here, and you've got the
>>>> *anarchists*, and I don't even know, the fascists, the people who
>>>> are hiding in the hills, with their Nazi signs, I don't even know
>>>> who those people are, but here they are, they're here, on the left
>>>> and the right, the crazy people, who don't really like America, got
>>>> it? In this group, you have communists, like Van Jones, you have,
>>>> he's a 9/11 truther, you have Medina, she's not a communist, she's
>>>> not an anarchist, she's really more of a, uh, this is a woman
>>>> that's running for Texas governor, but she is a 9/11, uh, truther,
>>>> or at least thinks that there are some good questions that haven't
>>>> been answered, I agree with you, but one of them is not did George
>>>> Bush blow up the World Trade Center, here's Alan Keyes, he's a
>>>> birther, this guy, what is this guy's name again, he's a Democrat,
>>>> he's one of the original birthers, what's his name, Philip Berg,
>>>> he's a Democrat, he was the first birther, or one of the first ones
>>>> [video ends]."
>>>>
>>>> (Emphasis added.)
>>>>
>>>> So: anarchist = progressive = communist = fascist = crazy = Nazi =
>>>> birther = Democrat = 9/11 truther = total government people!
>>>>
>>>> Any questions?
>>>>
>>> Beck is not a quick study but he is improving.
>>
>> I haven't really paid much attention to him, but I can only say, if
>> this stuff represents the result of improvement, oy veh!
>>
>
> He didn't say much about anarchists. It came up on his blackboard
> drawing of political affiliations based on an early test of
> libertarianism.
>
> Beck seems to see anarchy as a non-starter comprised of "crazy people"
> and opposite fascism and communism on his linear graph.
>
> It looked something like this...
>
> |
> Communism |
> ------------Progressive----------|------Libertarian----Anarchy
> Fascism |
> |
>
>
> So once you leave anarchy you enter minimal government or today's
> libertarian. This was the Republic. Since the 1900s the actions of
> Progressives (Marxist/Socialist/Leninist/Stalinist) have shifted the
> US toward Socialism where Liberals and Conservatives are today.
>
> Since Progressives move away from minimal government and always talk of
> change, they are planning more government and will eventually wind
> up as either Communist or Fascist.
>
> This is much more sophisticated than his attempts to describe relative
> politics a few months ago.
>
> It's a process of personal learning for him which he must then reconcile
> with Neocon taboos like 9/11, Obama's birth certificate, federal
> reserve, and others.
>
>

The Federal Reserve is Progressivism..... the rest are off the charts.

The constitution diversifies power, progressives work to consolidate
power. The two are not able to co exist so the Progressives are
chipping away at the limits set by the constitution on Government power.

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Strabo
2010-03-04 16:03:48 EST
James A. Donald wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:04:08 -0500, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Beck seems to see anarchy as a non-starter comprised of "crazy people"
>> and opposite fascism and communism on his linear graph.
>>
>> It looked something like this...
>>
>> |
>> Communism |
>> ------------Progressive----------|------Libertarian----Anarchy
>> Fascism |
>> |
>>
>>
>> So once you leave anarchy you enter minimal government or today's
>> libertarian.
>
> This was a reference to anarcho capitalism, not commies calling
> themselves anarchists.
>

This was in response to Dan Clore's concern about Beck's comments
on anarchism.

This is Beck's chart. I was recalling his interpretation of the moving
center of government.

His chart loosely describes the manipulation of government by
Progressives as a one-way trip from anarchy to Communism or Fascism.
The Libertarian area represents the Founders era and the vertical line
represents the year 1900. From that point on, he says, Progressives
(Socialists/Marxists, etc.) have 'brought about change' moving
government to the present where conservatives and liberals argue
over Socialist alternatives.


>
> --
> ----------------------
> We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
> of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
> right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
>
> http://www.jim.com/

James A. Donald
2010-03-05 07:35:50 EST
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:04:08 -0500, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:

> Beck seems to see anarchy as a non-starter comprised of "crazy people"
> and opposite fascism and communism on his linear graph.
>
> It looked something like this...
>
> |
> Communism |
> ------------Progressive----------|------Libertarian----Anarchy
> Fascism |
> |
>
>
> So once you leave anarchy you enter minimal government or today's
> libertarian.

This was a reference to anarcho capitalism, not commies calling
themselves anarchists.

--
----------------------
We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.

http://www.jim.com/
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