This is simply a fact. Not much elaboration of it is needed, but here's just enough.
1. Following someone is not illegal /per se/
2. Police dispatchers who speak with civilian callers on the phone are not sworn law enforcement officers; they have no authority to issue lawful police orders to civilians
3. Even sworn l.e.o. cannot order civilians not to do something that is otherwise legal and that isn't interfering with a lawful police operation
Zimmerman was not "ordered" by the police not to follow Martin. The race-obsessed anti-Zimmerman lynch mob needs to find something else.
MarkA
2012-06-07 14:55:30 EST
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:51:58 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:
> This is simply a fact. Not much elaboration of it is needed, but here's > just enough. > > 1. Following someone is not illegal /per se/ > > 2. Police dispatchers who speak with civilian callers on the phone are > not sworn law enforcement officers; they have no authority to issue > lawful police orders to civilians > > 3. Even sworn l.e.o. cannot order civilians not to do something that is > otherwise legal and that isn't interfering with a lawful police > operation > > > Zimmerman was not "ordered" by the police not to follow Martin. The > race-obsessed anti-Zimmerman lynch mob needs to find something else.
Zimmerman was doing his civic duty by demonstrating why it is a good idea to leave investigating suspicious individuals to the police, and not have trigger-happy Clint Eastwood wannbes prowling the streets with a 9 mm hanging heavy on their hip.
-- MarkA Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before About eight o'clock
Scout
2012-06-07 16:41:43 EST
"MarkA" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message news:pan.2012.06.07.18.55.28.4890@nowhere.invalid... > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:51:58 -0700, George Plimpton wrote: > >> This is simply a fact. Not much elaboration of it is needed, but here's >> just enough. >> >> 1. Following someone is not illegal /per se/ >> >> 2. Police dispatchers who speak with civilian callers on the phone are >> not sworn law enforcement officers; they have no authority to issue >> lawful police orders to civilians >> >> 3. Even sworn l.e.o. cannot order civilians not to do something that is >> otherwise legal and that isn't interfering with a lawful police >> operation >> >> >> Zimmerman was not "ordered" by the police not to follow Martin. The >> race-obsessed anti-Zimmerman lynch mob needs to find something else. > > Zimmerman was doing his civic duty by demonstrating why it is a good idea > to leave investigating suspicious individuals to the police, and not have > trigger-happy Clint Eastwood wannbes prowling the streets with a 9 mm > hanging heavy on their hip.
First you tell us to leave it to the police, but then you claim you don't want trigger-happy Clint Eastwood wannbes prowling the streets with a 9mm....
So which is it?
George Plimpton
2012-06-07 16:54:30 EST
On 6/7/2012 11:55 AM, MarkA wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:51:58 -0700, George Plimpton wrote: > >> This is simply a fact. Not much elaboration of it is needed, but here's >> just enough. >> >> 1. Following someone is not illegal /per se/ >> >> 2. Police dispatchers who speak with civilian callers on the phone are >> not sworn law enforcement officers; they have no authority to issue >> lawful police orders to civilians >> >> 3. Even sworn l.e.o. cannot order civilians not to do something that is >> otherwise legal and that isn't interfering with a lawful police >> operation >> >> >> Zimmerman was not "ordered" by the police not to follow Martin. The >> race-obsessed anti-Zimmerman lynch mob needs to find something else. > > Zimmerman was doing his civic duty by demonstrating why it is a good idea > to leave investigating suspicious individuals to the police, and not have > trigger-happy Clint Eastwood wannbes
No evidence he was "trigger-happy" or that he had delusions of being like Clint Eastwood. This is just your moronic political narrative.
MarkA
2012-06-08 08:15:05 EST
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:41:43 -0400, Scout wrote:
> > > "MarkA" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message > news:pan.2012.06.07.18.55.28.4890@nowhere.invalid... >> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:51:58 -0700, George Plimpton wrote: >> >>> This is simply a fact. Not much elaboration of it is needed, but >>> here's just enough. >>> >>> 1. Following someone is not illegal /per se/ >>> >>> 2. Police dispatchers who speak with civilian callers on the phone are >>> not sworn law enforcement officers; they have no authority to >>> issue lawful police orders to civilians >>> >>> 3. Even sworn l.e.o. cannot order civilians not to do something that >>> is >>> otherwise legal and that isn't interfering with a lawful police >>> operation >>> >>> >>> Zimmerman was not "ordered" by the police not to follow Martin. The >>> race-obsessed anti-Zimmerman lynch mob needs to find something else. >> >> Zimmerman was doing his civic duty by demonstrating why it is a good >> idea to leave investigating suspicious individuals to the police, and >> not have trigger-happy Clint Eastwood wannbes prowling the streets with >> a 9 mm hanging heavy on their hip. > > First you tell us to leave it to the police, but then you claim you don't > want trigger-happy Clint Eastwood wannbes prowling the streets with a > 9mm.... > > So which is it?
Police are trained in how to prevent a situation from escalating to the point of an unarmed civilian getting shot. It may not always work, but that's how they're trained. Any officer that shows a pattern of being a trigger-happy Clint Eastwood wannabe is going to wind up on the unemployment line.
-- MarkA Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before About eight o'clock
MarkA
2012-06-08 08:15:55 EST
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:54:30 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:
> On 6/7/2012 11:55 AM, MarkA wrote: >> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:51:58 -0700, George Plimpton wrote: >> >>> This is simply a fact. Not much elaboration of it is needed, but >>> here's just enough. >>> >>> 1. Following someone is not illegal /per se/ >>> >>> 2. Police dispatchers who speak with civilian callers on the phone are >>> not sworn law enforcement officers; they have no authority to >>> issue lawful police orders to civilians >>> >>> 3. Even sworn l.e.o. cannot order civilians not to do something that >>> is >>> otherwise legal and that isn't interfering with a lawful police >>> operation >>> >>> >>> Zimmerman was not "ordered" by the police not to follow Martin. The >>> race-obsessed anti-Zimmerman lynch mob needs to find something else. >> >> Zimmerman was doing his civic duty by demonstrating why it is a good >> idea to leave investigating suspicious individuals to the police, and >> not have trigger-happy Clint Eastwood wannbes > > No evidence he was "trigger-happy" or that he had delusions of being like > Clint Eastwood. This is just your moronic political narrative.
No evidence at all, if you don't count the dead nigger in the gutter.
-- MarkA Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before About eight o'clock
George Plimpton
2012-06-08 10:48:45 EST
On 6/8/2012 5:15 AM, MarkA wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:54:30 -0700, George Plimpton wrote: > >> On 6/7/2012 11:55 AM, MarkA wrote: >>> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:51:58 -0700, George Plimpton wrote: >>> >>>> This is simply a fact. Not much elaboration of it is needed, but >>>> here's just enough. >>>> >>>> 1. Following someone is not illegal /per se/ >>>> >>>> 2. Police dispatchers who speak with civilian callers on the phone are >>>> not sworn law enforcement officers; they have no authority to >>>> issue lawful police orders to civilians >>>> >>>> 3. Even sworn l.e.o. cannot order civilians not to do something that >>>> is >>>> otherwise legal and that isn't interfering with a lawful police >>>> operation >>>> >>>> >>>> Zimmerman was not "ordered" by the police not to follow Martin. The >>>> race-obsessed anti-Zimmerman lynch mob needs to find something else. >>> >>> Zimmerman was doing his civic duty by demonstrating why it is a good >>> idea to leave investigating suspicious individuals to the police, and >>> not have trigger-happy Clint Eastwood wannbes >> >> No evidence he was "trigger-happy" or that he had delusions of being like >> Clint Eastwood. This is just your moronic political narrative. > > No evidence at all, if you don't count the dead nigger in the gutter.
The dead kid is not evidence of what you claim.
Waldo Tunnel
2012-06-08 11:17:57 EST
On Jun 7, 8:51 am, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote: > This is simply a fact.
You're half right. It ain't a fact but you are simple. QED
Waldo Tunnel
2012-06-08 11:22:48 EST
On Jun 7, 11:55 am, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:51:58 -0700, George Plimpton wrote: > > This is simply a fact. Not much elaboration of it is needed, but here's > > just enough. > > > 1. Following someone is not illegal /per se/ > > > 2. Police dispatchers who speak with civilian callers on the phone are > > not sworn law enforcement officers; they have no authority to issue > > lawful police orders to civilians > > > 3. Even sworn l.e.o. cannot order civilians not to do something that is > > otherwise legal and that isn't interfering with a lawful police > > operation > > > Zimmerman was not "ordered" by the police not to follow Martin. The > > race-obsessed anti-Zimmerman lynch mob needs to find something else. > > Zimmerman was doing his civic duty by demonstrating why it is a good idea > to leave investigating suspicious individuals to the police, and not have > trigger-happy Clint Eastwood wannbes prowling the streets with a 9 mm > hanging heavy on their hip.
But Plimp--the paper tiger--is one of those 4-F slackers who think a gun makes him macho. The coward never served his country.
George Plimpton
2012-06-08 11:27:56 EST
On 6/8/2012 8:22 AM, Waldo Tunnel wrote: > On Jun 7, 11:55 am, MarkA<nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: >> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:51:58 -0700, George Plimpton wrote: >>> This is simply a fact. Not much elaboration of it is needed, but here's >>> just enough. >> >>> 1. Following someone is not illegal /per se/ >> >>> 2. Police dispatchers who speak with civilian callers on the phone are >>> not sworn law enforcement officers; they have no authority to issue >>> lawful police orders to civilians >> >>> 3. Even sworn l.e.o. cannot order civilians not to do something that is >>> otherwise legal and that isn't interfering with a lawful police >>> operation >> >>> Zimmerman was not "ordered" by the police not to follow Martin. The >>> race-obsessed anti-Zimmerman lynch mob needs to find something else. >> >> Zimmerman was doing his civic duty by demonstrating why it is a good idea >> to leave investigating suspicious individuals to the police, and not have >> trigger-happy Clint Eastwood wannbes prowling the streets with a 9 mm >> hanging heavy on their hip. > > But
But it is an established fact that no police "order" was given to Mr. Zimmerman. In fact, no police order *could* have been given, because Mr. Plimpton never spoke with a sworn police officer until they arrived at the scene of the shooting.