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Stan De SD
2006-01-04 10:14:42 EST
No wonder liberals love the NYT as the "paper of record" - it's about as
truthful as they are...

12 of 13 W. Va. Miners Confirmed Dead

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/04/D8ETSA487.html

12 Miners Found Alive 41 Hours After Explosion (NTY)
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/04/national/04mine.html?ei=5090&en=d84fbb6bba10d647&ex=1294030800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

===============================================
(following courtesy of Jim Alder:)

In 2003 a sociologist from Rutgers University named Ted Goertzel
wrote a paper in which he offered some insight into the psyche
of the left. Interesting reading:

In the 1970s, Stanley Rothman and Robert Lichter
administered Thematic Apperception Tests to a large sample of
"new left" radicals (Roots of Radicalism, 1982). They found that
activists were characterized by weakened self-esteem, injured
narcissism and paranoid tendencies. They were preoccupied with
power and attracted to radical ideologies that offered clear and
unambiguous answers to their questions. . . .

The unwillingness to offer alternatives reveals a lack of
self-confidence and self-esteem. If they offered their own
policy ideas they would be vulnerable to criticism. They would
run the risk that their ideas would fail, or would not seem
persuasive to others. This is especially difficult for anti-
capitalists after the fall of the Soviet Union. It has also been
difficult in the war against terrorism because Saddam Hussein
and Osama bin Laden are such unsympathetic figures.
Psychologically, it is easier to blame America for not finding a
solution than it is to put one's own ideas on the line.
===============================================



Bert Hyman
2006-01-04 10:45:02 EST
standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net (Stan de SD) wrote in
news:120f3$43bbe652$45035f0b$19605@msgid.meganewsservers.com:

> No wonder liberals love the NYT as the "paper of record" - it's
> about as truthful as they are...
> ...
> 12 Miners Found Alive 41 Hours After Explosion (NTY)
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/04/national/04mine.html?ei=5090&en=d8
> 4fbb6bba10d647&ex=1294030800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=
> print

Which says:

"[An updated version of this article reporting the death of 12 of the
13 miners is available here: After Reports to the Contrary, Only One
Miner Survives.]"

What's your point? If they'd changed the main entry, you'd be
accusing them of trying to cover up the earlier error.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

Joseph Welch
2006-01-04 11:10:45 EST

"Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote in message
news:120f3$43bbe652$45035f0b$19605@msgid.meganewsservers.com...

> No wonder liberals love the NYT as the "paper of record" - it's about as
> truthful as they are...
>
> 12 of 13 W. Va. Miners Confirmed Dead

The same thing that Fox News was reporting last night you stupid fuck.

--
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html



Red Rider
2006-01-04 11:28:15 EST

"Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote in message
news:120f3$43bbe652$45035f0b$19605@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
> No wonder liberals love the NYT as the "paper of record" - it's about as
> truthful as they are...
>
> 12 of 13 W. Va. Miners Confirmed Dead
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/04/D8ETSA487.html
>
> 12 Miners Found Alive 41 Hours After Explosion (NTY)
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/04/national/04mine.html?ei=5090&en=d84fbb6bba10d647&ex=1294030800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print
>
> ===============================================
> (following courtesy of Jim Alder:)
>
> In 2003 a sociologist from Rutgers University named Ted Goertzel
> wrote a paper in which he offered some insight into the psyche
> of the left. Interesting reading:
>
> In the 1970s, Stanley Rothman and Robert Lichter
> administered Thematic Apperception Tests to a large sample of
> "new left" radicals (Roots of Radicalism, 1982). They found that
> activists were characterized by weakened self-esteem, injured
> narcissism and paranoid tendencies. They were preoccupied with
> power and attracted to radical ideologies that offered clear and
> unambiguous answers to their questions. . . .
>
> The unwillingness to offer alternatives reveals a lack of
> self-confidence and self-esteem. If they offered their own
> policy ideas they would be vulnerable to criticism. They would
> run the risk that their ideas would fail, or would not seem
> persuasive to others. This is especially difficult for anti-
> capitalists after the fall of the Soviet Union. It has also been
> difficult in the war against terrorism because Saddam Hussein
> and Osama bin Laden are such unsympathetic figures.
> Psychologically, it is easier to blame America for not finding a
> solution than it is to put one's own ideas on the line.
> ===============================================
>
>



*@hotmai.com
2006-01-04 20:38:35 EST
Joseph Welch <seattledemocracy@freewebspace.com> wrote:

> "Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote in message
> news:120f3$43bbe652$45035f0b$19605@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
>
> > No wonder liberals love the NYT as the "paper of record" - it's about as
> > truthful as they are...
> >
> > 12 of 13 W. Va. Miners Confirmed Dead
>
> The same thing that Fox News was reporting last night you stupid fuck.
>
But Fox News doesn't lie, so they must still be alive.

Stan De SD
2006-01-05 08:41:20 EST

"Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9741634C2574CVeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1...
> standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net (Stan de SD) wrote in
> news:120f3$43bbe652$45035f0b$19605@msgid.meganewsservers.com:
>
> > No wonder liberals love the NYT as the "paper of record" - it's
> > about as truthful as they are...
> > ...
> > 12 Miners Found Alive 41 Hours After Explosion (NTY)
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/04/national/04mine.html?ei=5090&en=d8
> > 4fbb6bba10d647&ex=1294030800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=
> > print
>
> Which says:
>
> "[An updated version of this article reporting the death of 12 of the
> 13 miners is available here: After Reports to the Contrary, Only One
> Miner Survives.]"
>
> What's your point? If they'd changed the main entry, you'd be
> accusing them of trying to cover up the earlier error.

No, that would be what's known as a "correction" in the trade...



Stan De SD
2006-01-05 08:42:08 EST

"Joseph Welch" <seattledemocracy@freewebspace.com> wrote in message
news:9sSuf.27931$jV1.8418@fe04.buzzardnews.com...
>
> "Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote in message
> news:120f3$43bbe652$45035f0b$19605@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
>
> > No wonder liberals love the NYT as the "paper of record" - it's about as
> > truthful as they are...
> >
> > 12 of 13 W. Va. Miners Confirmed Dead
>
> The same thing that Fox News was reporting last night you stupid fuck.

Fox made the correction, the NYT was still reporting the disproven story
hours later.



Bert Hyman
2006-01-06 19:05:46 EST
In news:279c0$43bd21f2$45035f0b$31321@msgid.meganewsservers.com "Stan de
SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote:

>
> "Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9741634C2574CVeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1...
>> standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net (Stan de SD) wrote in
>> news:120f3$43bbe652$45035f0b$19605@msgid.meganewsservers.com:
>>
>> > No wonder liberals love the NYT as the "paper of record" - it's
>> > about as truthful as they are...
>> > ...
>> > 12 Miners Found Alive 41 Hours After Explosion (NTY)
>> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/04/national/04mine.html?ei=5090&en=d8
>> > 4fbb6bba10d647&ex=1294030800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=
>> > print
>>
>> Which says:
>>
>> "[An updated version of this article reporting the death of 12 of the
>> 13 miners is available here: After Reports to the Contrary, Only One
>> Miner Survives.]"
>>
>> What's your point? If they'd changed the main entry, you'd be
>> accusing them of trying to cover up the earlier error.
>
> No, that would be what's known as a "correction" in the trade...

So, why did you not include the correction in your post, and then claim
that they "got it wrong"?

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

Ha-Emet
2006-01-07 09:02:44 EST


The Price for a Foolish War

Israeli Professor lecturing to the U.S. Naval College tells them the U.S.
must withdraw now from Iraq and that is the price of a foolish war:

"For misleading the American people, and launching the most foolish war
since Emperor Augustus in 9 B.C sent his legions into Germany and lost
them, Bush deserves to be impeached and, once he has been removed from
office, put on trial along with the rest of the president's men. If
convicted, they'll have plenty of time to mull over their sins."

http://pnews.org/ArT/ExP/WIth.shtml


======================================
http://up-yours.us
======================================



A Veteran For Peace
2006-01-07 10:23:06 EST
In article <Pine.NEB.4.62.0601071401450.24075@sdf.lonestar.org>,
Ha-Emet <emet@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:

> The Price for a Foolish War
>
> Israeli Professor lecturing to the U.S. Naval College tells them the U.S.
> must withdraw now from Iraq and that is the price of a foolish war:
>
> "For misleading the American people, and launching the most foolish war
> since Emperor Augustus in 9 B.C sent his legions into Germany and lost
> them, Bush deserves to be impeached and, once he has been removed from
> office, put on trial along with the rest of the president's men. If
> convicted, they'll have plenty of time to mull over their sins."
>
> http://pnews.org/ArT/ExP/WIth.shtml
>
>
> ======================================
> http://up-yours.us
> ======================================

thanks, good post. &
why not join the NG alt.impeach.bush ?

--
Impeach Bush ! a noble cause
Operation Iraqi Liberation = O.I.L.
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