Supposedly people know what they think they think regarding issues they make claims about. Even when the claims seem completely absurd, people supposedly have some idea why they believe them IF they actually do. The apparent absurdity of some of the things you've written lately immediately produce questions regarding how they could possibly be true, or how you could possibly think they are whether they are or not. If there's any real thought behind what so far appears to be simply thoughtless desperation from a crazed "ara", try answering these questions you've forced me to wonder about and share the thought process(es) which caused you to arrive at what appears to be mere confusion and bewilderment. _____________________________________________________ You wrote....I asked:
>Frogs are as mobile as the next creature. Any there could easily >move on as the fields dry.
How would they know what was happening? How would they know where the water went? How far would they have to travel in order to get to it? What would keep them from getting killed by predators IF they hopped along trying to get there? What would keep them from dehydrating even IF they did know where to go, tried to get there, and didn't get killed by predators?
. . . >Why would they move from their established habitat? Some frogs >live near rivers or creeks, but they don't actually live -in- the water >of moving rivers and creeks, nor do they spawn in moving water. >Why don't you do a little research?
I'll just ask you what you asked me: where do they come from? IF you think they don't get killed when the fields dry, but still think they "easily move on as the fields dry", they're still GONE. So again, where do you think they come from?
. . . >And if his claims were true, a seasonal wholesale slaughter of frogs >would be well-documented.
Who would document it? Why?
Guppy The Corpse Pumper
2006-09-03 17:33:22 EST
dh@. wrote: > Supposedly people know what they think they think regarding > issues they make claims about. Even when the claims seem > completely absurd, people supposedly have some idea why > they believe them IF they actually do. The apparent absurdity > of some of the things you've written lately immediately produce > questions regarding how they could possibly be true, or how > you could possibly think they are whether they are or not. > If there's any real thought behind what so far appears to > be simply thoughtless desperation from a crazed "ara", try > answering these questions you've forced me to wonder about > and share the thought process(es) which caused you to arrive > at what appears to be mere confusion and bewilderment. > _____________________________________________________ > You wrote....I asked: > > >Frogs are as mobile as the next creature. Any there could easily > >move on as the fields dry. > > How would they know what was happening? How would they > know where the water went? How far would they have to travel > in order to get to it? What would keep them from getting killed > by predators IF they hopped along trying to get there? What > would keep them from dehydrating even IF they did know where > to go, tried to get there, and didn't get killed by predators?
When a water hole or creek starts drying up frogs will either move or dig themselves down into the mud and await the next freshet of water.
> > . . . > >Why would they move from their established habitat? Some frogs > >live near rivers or creeks, but they don't actually live -in- the water > >of moving rivers and creeks, nor do they spawn in moving water. > >Why don't you do a little research? > > I'll just ask you what you asked me: where do they come from? > IF you think they don't get killed when the fields dry, but still think > they "easily move on as the fields dry", they're still GONE. So again, > where do you think they come from? > > . . . > >And if his claims were true, a seasonal wholesale slaughter of frogs > >would be well-documented. > > Who would document it? Why?
.no-spam.invalid Anonymous
2006-09-04 02:04:52 EST
dh@. wrote > Supposedly people know what they think they think regardin > issues they make claims about. Even when the claims see > completely absurd, people supposedly have some idea wh > they believe them IF they actually do. The apparent absurdit > of some of the things you've written lately immediately produc > questions regarding how they could possibly be true, or ho > you could possibly think they are whether they are or not > If there's any real thought behind what so far appears t > be simply thoughtless desperation from a crazed "ara", tr > answering these questions you've forced me to wonder abou > and share the thought process(es) which caused you to arriv > at what appears to be mere confusion and bewilderment > ____________________________________________________ > You wrote....I asked > > Frogs are as mobile as the next creature. Any there could easil > move on as the fields dry > > How would they know what was happening? How would the > know where the water went? How far would they have to trave > in order to get to it? What would keep them from getting kille > by predators IF they hopped along trying to get there? Wha > would keep them from dehydrating even IF they did know wher > to go, tried to get there, and didn't get killed by predators >
When a water hole or creek starts drying up frogs will either move o dig themselves down into the mud and await the next freshet of water
> > . . > Why would they move from their established habitat? Some frog > live near rivers or creeks, but they don't actually live -in- th wate > of moving rivers and creeks, nor do they spawn in moving water > Why don't you do a little research > > I'll just ask you what you asked me: where do they come from > IF you think they don't get killed when the fields dry, but stil thin > they "easily move on as the fields dry", they're stil GONE. So again > where do you think they come from > > . . > And if his claims were true, a seasonal wholesale slaughter of frog > would be well-documented > > Who would document it? Why Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org
.no-spam.invalid Anonymous
2006-09-04 02:04:52 EST
dh@. wrote > Supposedly people know what they think they think regardin > issues they make claims about. Even when the claims see > completely absurd, people supposedly have some idea wh > they believe them IF they actually do. The apparent absurdit > of some of the things you've written lately immediately produc > questions regarding how they could possibly be true, or ho > you could possibly think they are whether they are or not > If there's any real thought behind what so far appears t > be simply thoughtless desperation from a crazed "ara", tr > answering these questions you've forced me to wonder abou > and share the thought process(es) which caused you to arriv > at what appears to be mere confusion and bewilderment > ____________________________________________________ > You wrote....I asked > > Frogs are as mobile as the next creature. Any there could easil > move on as the fields dry > > How would they know what was happening? How would the > know where the water went? How far would they have to trave > in order to get to it? What would keep them from getting kille > by predators IF they hopped along trying to get there? Wha > would keep them from dehydrating even IF they did know wher > to go, tried to get there, and didn't get killed by predators >
When a water hole or creek starts drying up frogs will either move o dig themselves down into the mud and await the next freshet of water
> > . . > Why would they move from their established habitat? Some frog > live near rivers or creeks, but they don't actually live -in- th wate > of moving rivers and creeks, nor do they spawn in moving water > Why don't you do a little research > > I'll just ask you what you asked me: where do they come from > IF you think they don't get killed when the fields dry, but stil thin > they "easily move on as the fields dry", they're stil GONE. So again > where do you think they come from > > . . > And if his claims were true, a seasonal wholesale slaughter of frog > would be well-documented > > Who would document it? Why Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org
.no-spam.invalid Anonymous
2006-09-04 02:04:52 EST
dh@. wrote > Supposedly people know what they think they think regardin > issues they make claims about. Even when the claims see > completely absurd, people supposedly have some idea wh > they believe them IF they actually do. The apparent absurdit > of some of the things you've written lately immediately produc > questions regarding how they could possibly be true, or ho > you could possibly think they are whether they are or not > If there's any real thought behind what so far appears t > be simply thoughtless desperation from a crazed "ara", tr > answering these questions you've forced me to wonder abou > and share the thought process(es) which caused you to arriv > at what appears to be mere confusion and bewilderment > ____________________________________________________ > You wrote....I asked > > Frogs are as mobile as the next creature. Any there could easil > move on as the fields dry > > How would they know what was happening? How would the > know where the water went? How far would they have to trave > in order to get to it? What would keep them from getting kille > by predators IF they hopped along trying to get there? Wha > would keep them from dehydrating even IF they did know wher > to go, tried to get there, and didn't get killed by predators >
When a water hole or creek starts drying up frogs will either move o dig themselves down into the mud and await the next freshet of water
> > . . > Why would they move from their established habitat? Some frog > live near rivers or creeks, but they don't actually live -in- th wate > of moving rivers and creeks, nor do they spawn in moving water > Why don't you do a little research > > I'll just ask you what you asked me: where do they come from > IF you think they don't get killed when the fields dry, but stil thin > they "easily move on as the fields dry", they're stil GONE. So again > where do you think they come from > > . . > And if his claims were true, a seasonal wholesale slaughter of frog > would be well-documented > > Who would document it? Why Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org
.no-spam.invalid Anonymous
2006-09-04 02:04:52 EST
dh@. wrote > Supposedly people know what they think they think regardin > issues they make claims about. Even when the claims see > completely absurd, people supposedly have some idea wh > they believe them IF they actually do. The apparent absurdit > of some of the things you've written lately immediately produc > questions regarding how they could possibly be true, or ho > you could possibly think they are whether they are or not > If there's any real thought behind what so far appears t > be simply thoughtless desperation from a crazed "ara", tr > answering these questions you've forced me to wonder abou > and share the thought process(es) which caused you to arriv > at what appears to be mere confusion and bewilderment > ____________________________________________________ > You wrote....I asked > > Frogs are as mobile as the next creature. Any there could easil > move on as the fields dry > > How would they know what was happening? How would the > know where the water went? How far would they have to trave > in order to get to it? What would keep them from getting kille > by predators IF they hopped along trying to get there? Wha > would keep them from dehydrating even IF they did know wher > to go, tried to get there, and didn't get killed by predators >
When a water hole or creek starts drying up frogs will either move o dig themselves down into the mud and await the next freshet of water
> > . . > Why would they move from their established habitat? Some frog > live near rivers or creeks, but they don't actually live -in- th wate > of moving rivers and creeks, nor do they spawn in moving water > Why don't you do a little research > > I'll just ask you what you asked me: where do they come from > IF you think they don't get killed when the fields dry, but stil thin > they "easily move on as the fields dry", they're stil GONE. So again > where do you think they come from > > . . > And if his claims were true, a seasonal wholesale slaughter of frog > would be well-documented > > Who would document it? Why Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org
.no-spam.invalid Anonymous
2006-09-04 02:04:54 EST
dh@. wrote > Supposedly people know what they think they think regardin > issues they make claims about. Even when the claims see > completely absurd, people supposedly have some idea wh > they believe them IF they actually do. The apparent absurdit > of some of the things you've written lately immediately produc > questions regarding how they could possibly be true, or ho > you could possibly think they are whether they are or not > If there's any real thought behind what so far appears t > be simply thoughtless desperation from a crazed "ara", tr > answering these questions you've forced me to wonder abou > and share the thought process(es) which caused you to arriv > at what appears to be mere confusion and bewilderment > ____________________________________________________ > You wrote....I asked > > Frogs are as mobile as the next creature. Any there could easil > move on as the fields dry > > How would they know what was happening? How would the > know where the water went? How far would they have to trave > in order to get to it? What would keep them from getting kille > by predators IF they hopped along trying to get there? Wha > would keep them from dehydrating even IF they did know wher > to go, tried to get there, and didn't get killed by predators >
When a water hole or creek starts drying up frogs will either move o dig themselves down into the mud and await the next freshet of water
> > . . > Why would they move from their established habitat? Some frog > live near rivers or creeks, but they don't actually live -in- th wate > of moving rivers and creeks, nor do they spawn in moving water > Why don't you do a little research > > I'll just ask you what you asked me: where do they come from > IF you think they don't get killed when the fields dry, but stil thin > they "easily move on as the fields dry", they're stil GONE. So again > where do you think they come from > > . . > And if his claims were true, a seasonal wholesale slaughter of frog > would be well-documented > > Who would document it? Why Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org
.no-spam.invalid Anonymous
2006-09-04 02:04:55 EST
dh@. wrote > Supposedly people know what they think they think regardin > issues they make claims about. Even when the claims see > completely absurd, people supposedly have some idea wh > they believe them IF they actually do. The apparent absurdit > of some of the things you've written lately immediately produc > questions regarding how they could possibly be true, or ho > you could possibly think they are whether they are or not > If there's any real thought behind what so far appears t > be simply thoughtless desperation from a crazed "ara", tr > answering these questions you've forced me to wonder abou > and share the thought process(es) which caused you to arriv > at what appears to be mere confusion and bewilderment > ____________________________________________________ > You wrote....I asked > > Frogs are as mobile as the next creature. Any there could easil > move on as the fields dry > > How would they know what was happening? How would the > know where the water went? How far would they have to trave > in order to get to it? What would keep them from getting kille > by predators IF they hopped along trying to get there? Wha > would keep them from dehydrating even IF they did know wher > to go, tried to get there, and didn't get killed by predators >
When a water hole or creek starts drying up frogs will either move o dig themselves down into the mud and await the next freshet of water
> > . . > Why would they move from their established habitat? Some frog > live near rivers or creeks, but they don't actually live -in- th wate > of moving rivers and creeks, nor do they spawn in moving water > Why don't you do a little research > > I'll just ask you what you asked me: where do they come from > IF you think they don't get killed when the fields dry, but stil thin > they "easily move on as the fields dry", they're stil GONE. So again > where do you think they come from > > . . > And if his claims were true, a seasonal wholesale slaughter of frog > would be well-documented > > Who would document it? Why Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org
Pearl
2006-09-04 08:51:38 EST
<*h@.> wrote in message news:dhmjf25rv2jsna3gavs8kttnlo079tmhpl@4ax.com... > Supposedly people know what they think they think regarding > issues they make claims about. Even when the claims seem > completely absurd, people supposedly have some idea why > they believe them IF they actually do. The apparent absurdity > of some of the things you've written lately immediately produce > questions regarding how they could possibly be true, or how > you could possibly think they are whether they are or not. > If there's any real thought behind what so far appears to > be simply thoughtless desperation from a crazed "ara", try > answering these questions you've forced me to wonder about > and share the thought process(es) which caused you to arrive > at what appears to be mere confusion and bewilderment.
Projection.
> >Why would they move from their established habitat? Some frogs > >live near rivers or creeks, but they don't actually live -in- the water > >of moving rivers and creeks, nor do they spawn in moving water. > >Why don't you do a little research?
So where are all 'these' frogs coming from, dh?
> >And if his claims were true, a seasonal wholesale slaughter of frogs > >would be well-documented. > > Who would document it? Why?
I challenge you to find a reference to this alleged mass slaughter.
D*@.
2006-09-04 22:19:08 EST
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 02:04:52 -0400, .no-spam.invalid (Anonymous) wrote:
>*h@. wrote: >> Supposedly people know what they think they think regarding >> issues they make claims about. Even when the claims seem >> completely absurd, people supposedly have some idea why >> they believe them IF they actually do. The apparent absurdity >> of some of the things you've written lately immediately produce >> questions regarding how they could possibly be true, or how >> you could possibly think they are whether they are or not. >> If there's any real thought behind what so far appears to >> be simply thoughtless desperation from a crazed "ara", try >> answering these questions you've forced me to wonder about >> and share the thought process(es) which caused you to arrive >> at what appears to be mere confusion and bewilderment. >> _____________________________________________________ >> You wrote....I asked: >> >> Frogs are as mobile as the next creature. Any there could easily >> move on as the fields dry. >> >> How would they know what was happening? How would they >> know where the water went? How far would they have to travel >> in order to get to it? What would keep them from getting killed >> by predators IF they hopped along trying to get there? What >> would keep them from dehydrating even IF they did know where >> to go, tried to get there, and didn't get killed by predators? >> > > >When a water hole or creek starts drying up frogs will either move
How would they know what was happening? How would they know where the water went? How far would they have to travel in order to get to it? What would keep them from getting killed by predators IF they hopped along trying to get there? What would keep them from dehydrating even IF they did know where to go, tried to get there, and didn't get killed by predators?
>or dig themselves down into the mud and await the next freshet >of water.
Before that happens the harvesting equipment would crush many of them. Also predators like racoons etc would dig up and kill many that survive the harvesting. Of those who do survive until the water returns many of them will be killed by waterfowl in diderot's case, and those that survive the birds will again have to survive more draining. Those that dig into the mud and survive again for a while will be killed later when the ground is turned for planting...
"rice has to grow in water, so it is flooded in april, drained for harvest in july/august, reflooded and drained in october. we flood in mid-december for waterfowl, and drain in february. in february and march, the land is disced and planed." - diderot